11.7 LNB for VAST?

[BeragooBruce]

Hi - Newbie here.

I'm putting together components to receive VAST here in rural NSW. I think I have most of the info I need after trawling through this very useful & informative website, though will probably come unstuck later as I do the actual installation. . . .

But I have a couple of questions regarding the LNB. On the site, it is stated that 'to access the full range of VAST services in future, it is recommended that a wideband (11.7 - 12.75 GHz) LNB is used'.

From what I have seen on this Austech site, a 10700 LNB is recommended. Also, the 10700 seems more readily available on fleabay (where most of my stuff will come from, unless anyone has a better source they'd suggest?). So which do I need?

Still on LNB's, I want to buy one that will feed 2 VAST STB's, so I can watch & record. (ripoff or what?). I read that an LNB with 'dual' output sockets is needed. The ones I've seen with 2 sockets are variously described as 'twin' or 'double' output. I take it these terms all mean the same thing, and I'm just being obtuse?

I would greatly appreciate any words of wisdom from all you helpful satellite buffs - many thanks!

Bruce

[viewer]

All you say is correct
One like this will feed 2 vast receivers

[admin]

Yes, they can be referred to by a few different names and yes they mean the same thing. If you buying from ebay, just check the picture or description to make sure it has 2 outputs on it.

[admin]

Or 4 out for a dollar more :

[BeragooBruce]

Blimey - that was quick!

Thanks to all. But I forgot to actually ask the question (since edited in): do I need an 11.7 -12.75 GHz LNB, or does the 10700 cover this range? I sort of assumed 10700 was another way of specifying 10.7 GHz?? (I did say I was a newbie numpty!)

Cheers

Bruce

[admin]

Yes, a 10700 is required and is the default setting for the VAST box.

[mtv]

Yes, the 10700 LNB covers all the VAST frequencies used now and if they move to lower frequencies (eg: Optus D3) later.

[mtv]

do I need an 11.7 -12.75 GHz LNB, or does the 10700 cover this range? I sort of assumed 10700 was another way of specifying 10.7 GHz??

The 10700 covers the range and yes, you're correct, 10700 is the same as 10.7GHz (or 10700MHz)

[newy1234]

Yes the 10700 is the go. I have just installed a Vast setup and that is what I used.

[gordon_s1942]

And to confuse you even more for future instalations, if you put a Dual Out on the dish now which is recomended, at a later date by adding a 'Mulltiswitch' into the cable will allow you to add futher STBs without the need to go climbing to the dish but, thats for RON.............
This arrangement would also allow you to run an Aurora set up along with the VAST if you have that untill it too goes in a couple of years.

I am a bit confused about the quad out LNB's as I read or saw a comment that they wernt just 4 X 1 LNB's but 2 were intended for other frequencies?

[mtv]

I am a bit confused about the quad out LNB's as I read or saw a comment that they wernt just 4 X 1 LNB's but 2 were intended for other frequencies?

There are various ouput/frequency combination splits for quads, just as there are for twin/duals.

Not all twin output LNB's are two separate LNB's and can be a single LNB with hi/lo separate outputs (Eg: universal) and others which have separate H/V outputs.

The Sharp Dual Output 10700 contains two independent dual-polarity 10700 LNB's in a single housing.

For more than two tuners, I recommend (and use) a multiswitch in preference against using quad LNB's.

[Tiny]

(Quote):But I have a couple of questions regarding the LNB. On the site, it is stated that 'to access the full range of VAST services in future, it is recommended that a wideband (11.7 - 12.75 GHz) LNB is used'. (Quote)

This description will shine a light on things for you Bruce,
as a 10700 Lnb has a range of frequencies, in this case 11.7~12.75GHz.



L.O 10.7 GHz (10700) 11.7~12.75GHz 1000~2050Mhz 0.6 Noise Figure Foxtel + VAST Approved 2x F-Type Outputs Amplifier built in Weather proof cover.
Hope that helps.

[mtv]

This description will shine a light on things for you Bruce,
as a 10700 Lnb has a range of frequencies, in this case 11.7~12.75Ghz.



L.O 10.7 GHz (10700) 11.7~12.75GHz 1000~2050Mhz 0.6 Noise Figure Foxtel + VAST Approved 2x F-Type Outputs Amplifier built in Weather proof cover.
Hope that helps.

Yes, that's the one I would recommend..... but there are prices available much cheaper than that.

[BeragooBruce]

Great, thanks for all that. I'll now start to get my equipment together ready to install.

I plan to get a cheapo signal meter, to help find the satellite (in conjunction with the satfinder website, compass, inclinometer etc). But am I right to assume there is some kind of signal strength/quality indication displayed on the TV screen once I get that far?

Thanks again.

Bruce

[mtv]

Yes, there are signal strength and signal quality 'scales' which can be displayed on the screen.

These can be useful for peaking dish alignment and LNB SKEW.

If you get the PVR version of the UEC VAST box, it has a very helpful dish alignment feature, by pressing the help button.

You move the pointer to your approx location and it will then display azimuth and elevation settings for your dish.

They are approximate only, but puts you in the ballpark to start with.

BTW, this is a feature of the new firmware, which is only available in the PVR version ATM.

[gordon_s1942]

Yes, there are signal strength and signal quality 'scales' which can be displayed on the screen.

These can be useful for peaking dish alignment and LNB SKEW.

If you get the PVR version of the UEC VAST box, it has a very helpful dish alignment feature, by pressing the help button.

You move the pointer to your approx location and it will then display azimuth and elevation settings for your dish.

They are approximate only, but puts you in the ballpark to start with.

BTW, this is a feature of the new firmware, which is only available in the PVR version ATM.

Is this a new feature we can expect SOOOOOON from UEC along with the update to enable the PVR feature in the older current STB"s??

[mtv]

Is this a new feature we can expect SOOOOOON from UEC along with the update to enable the PVR feature in the older current STB"s??

Yep.... it's in the new firmware.... coming soooooooon.

[gordon_s1942]

So, what will come first, my 70th in November or the UEC update?????

Geeeez, it had better be here before mid December or the World will end and we will Never know what we have missed!!!

[mtv]

So, what will come first, my 70th in November or the UEC update?????

Geeeez, it had better be here before mid December or the World will end and we will Never know what we have missed!!!

I wouldn't like to take any bets, Gordon.

As you know, it was going to be soooooon the Christmas before last!

UEC have redefined the meaning of 'soon'.

Remember, UEC are still offering to do the upgrade at their Sydney facility but have not provided a date for the OTA upgrade (other than soooooon) of course.

[toyboy11]

MTV

Well what about sending them an email for an update on this,noting that i'll leave the 3rd man out this time.