All the experienced port forwarders out there I need some love!

[Uncle Kneebo]

Hey guys,
I have the DVR networked and talking on their internal static.
It's pinging and doing all things right.
Where I am lost is going to the outside world, currently I haven't specifically said that all things coming in on the ISP static on port 85 should be routed to 10.0.0.50
Is this where I could be going wrong?

The other thing I found odd was both live view and play back online are done on the same port - 85.
From memory most DVRs I have seen have required several ports forwarded to do things like audio, live view and playback.
Is this ok? It's a Unimo branded unit to a Thompson router specifics I can't remember right now.

Please share all you can!
thanks lads

[intelliGEORGE]

Where I am lost is going to the outside world, currently I haven't specifically said that all things coming in on the ISP static on port 85 should be routed to 10.0.0.50

In order for external traffic to access the DVR you'll need to open a port in your router and point it to your DVR IP address 10.0.0.50.

Before we proceed, we need to establish two things;
1. What is the exact model# of the router
2. Is the external IP address (ISP provided) static?

[autotuner]

This is really useful for port fowarding noddy guides.

[Uncle Kneebo]

In order for external traffic to access the DVR you'll need to open a port in your router and point it to your DVR IP address 10.0.0.50.

Before we proceed, we need to establish two things;
1. What is the exact model# of the router
2. Is the external IP address (ISP provided) static?

1. Thompson Technicolor TG782 I am fairly sure. Telstra has begun shipping them out in the last week I a told.
It's using different terminology calling for trigger ports and things.

I had port 80(http)triggering 85 (DVR) then that streams to 10.0.0.50
Do I then need to create one - 85 triggering 80 to external static

[Andrewpv01]

I generally change the port the DVR is using - pick anything and stick with it over multiple DVR's.

Then you forward that port or ports to 10.0.0.50.

I prefer to stay away from port 80 because other things use it.

Then follow the tutorial for your specific router at portforward.com

Provided it is a static IP should work fine - if it's dynamic and the client wont/cant get a static ip then you need to set up a DNS look up service.

[admin]

Dynamic DNS services work just as well as a static IP addresses these days.

[Uncle Kneebo]

I think I a missing the second set of ports.
Again it works on an internal network to the wified acer but when i go to the 4g dongle no loving.
I am headed back today to add the second ports and see how I go.

[downunderdan]

Dynamic DNS services work just as well as a static IP addresses these days.

Dynamic DNS is for home-users, those stifled by ultra-cheap ISP hosting and backyard tinkering. None of those limitations have any business in business or where any form of reliability is required as would appear to be the case here.

[admin]

You dont get out much do you ?

[intelliGEORGE]

From what I understand, the Unimo only uses one port.

In the Unimo setup;

Under Network Type setup:
Network type = Static
DDNS Link = Off
Port = Give it a port number (4-digits)
IP Address = 10.0.0.50
Subnet Mask = 255.255.255.0
Gateway = Router IP (I'm assuming 10.0.0.1 or 10.0.0.254)
DNS IP = 0.0.0.0

In the router setup;

Click the Toolbox button near the left of the page.
Click Game & Application Sharing.
Click the Create a new game or application link near the bottom of the page.
Enter a name e.g Unimo DVR into the Name box.
Enable the Manual Entry of Port Maps radio button.
When you are finished, click the Next button.
Enter the desired port number in Port Range(Port used in Unimo Setup) of the Game or Application Definition page.
Click the Assign a game or application to a local network device link near the bottom of the page.
Use the Device drop down box and select the DVR’s address to port forward to.
Select the application you created using the Game or Application drop down box.
Then click Add to enable it.

[Uncle Kneebo]

From what I understand, the Unimo only uses one port.

In the Unimo setup;

Under Network Type setup:
Network type = Static
DDNS Link = Off
Port = Give it a port number (4-digits)
IP Address = 10.0.0.50
Subnet Mask = 255.255.255.0
Gateway = Router IP (I'm assuming 10.0.0.1 or 10.0.0.254)
DNS IP = 0.0.0.0

In the router setup;

Click the Toolbox button near the left of the page.
Click Game & Application Sharing.
Click the Create a new game or application link near the bottom of the page.
Enter a name e.g Unimo DVR into the Name box.
Enable the Manual Entry of Port Maps radio button.
When you are finished, click the Next button.
Enter the desired port number in Port Range(Port used in Unimo Setup) of the Game or Application Definition page.
Click the Assign a game or application to a local network device link near the bottom of the page.
Use the Device drop down box and select the DVR’s address to port forward to.
Select the application you created using the Game or Application drop down box.
Then click Add to enable it.

Yeah I had performed all of the above steps on the Friday afternoon;

This is going to be a lame question but I will ask it anyway - I do not need ports to be opened for internal access do I?
If not then it means my port forwarding is incorrect. If you do then it proves my port forwarding and some firewall issues still occuring with the router.

[downunderdan]

This is going to be a lame question but I will ask it anyway - I do not need ports to be opened for internal access do I?

If the DVR and the PC connecting to it are on the same LAN segment e.g. they are both plugged into the same network switch, and the PC has an IP Address like 10.0.0.xxx then almost certainly no.

Nothing's impossible though and if it's a really well locked-down or redundant network then there may be obstructions but if I would be quite surprised.

You should probably also check that the ISP isn't filtering inbound traffic.

[Uncle Kneebo]

If the DVR and the PC connecting to it are on the same LAN segment e.g. they are both plugged into the same network switch, and the PC has an IP Address like 10.0.0.xxx then almost certainly no.

Nothing's impossible though and if it's a really well locked-down or redundant network then there may be obstructions but if I would be quite surprised.

You should probably also check that the ISP isn't filtering inbound traffic.

Yeah I have obviously done something wrong here; back to the drawing board....

[leighw64]

I have found this to be a really useful tool if you're not convinced that your port forwarding is working:
It wont test forwarding of UDP ports to devices other than the one you're testing from (this is a limitation of UDP, not the checker). You can get around this by disconnecting the DVR from the network and temporarily re-addressing the PC you have PFPortChecker installed on as the DVR address, run the check and if successful revert your PC address to the original and reconnect the DVR.

I know this doesn't tell you how to setup your router/DVR but at least it can satisfy you that your port forwarding is working so you can look elsewhere if need be.

[Uncle Kneebo]

In hindsight the fault was simple -
on this particular modem I read the titling as if it were a to and from port forwarding; its coming in from port 80 - needs to be sent to port 85.
this was wrong;

on this modem all you need to do it set the initial field to 85 and save it, reboot and job is done. Simple but the descriptions threw me off.

Modems are liks panels; we need to learn 100000 different versions of the same thing. And people wonder why we get confused with them all.

Not like a switch board are they hahaha

[leighw64]

Modems are liks panels; we need to learn 100000 different versions of the same thing. And people wonder why we get confused with them all.

Not like a switch board are they hahaha

Very true, sounds like things are pretty similar in Australia to here in the UK.