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    Default US plan to spy on all emails, web searches and file transfers

    US drafting plan to allow government access to any email or Web search
    01/14/2008 @ 9:02 am
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    National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell is drawing up plans for cyberspace spying that would make the current debate on warrantless wiretaps look like a "walk in the park," according to an interview published in the New Yorker's print edition today.

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    Debate on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act “will be a walk in the park compared to this,” McConnell said. “this is going to be a goat rope on the Hill. My prediction is that we’re going to screw around with this until something horrendous happens.”

    The article, which profiles the 65-year-old former admiral appointed by President George W. Bush in January 2007 to oversee all of America's intelligence agencies, was not published on the New Yorker's Web site.

    McConnell is developing a Cyber-Security Policy, still in the draft stage, which will closely police Internet activity.

    "Ed Giorgio, who is working with McConnell on the plan, said that would mean giving the government the autority to examine the content of any e-mail, file transfer or Web search," author Lawrence Wright pens.

    “Google has records that could help in a cyber-investigation, he said," Wright adds. "Giorgio warned me, 'We have a saying in this business: ‘Privacy and security are a zero-sum game.'"

    A zero-sum game is one in which gains by one side come at the expense of the other. In other words -- McConnell's aide believes greater security can only come at privacy's expense.

    McConnell has been an advocate for computer-network defense, which has previously not been the province of any intelligence agency.

    According to a 2007 conversation in the Oval Office, McConnell told President Bush, “If the 9/11 perpetrators had focused on a single US bank through cyber-attack and it had been successful, it would have an order of magnitude greater impact on the US economy.”

    Bush turned to Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, asking him if it was true; Paulson said that it was. Bush then asked to McConnell to come up with a network security strategy.

    "One proposal of McConnell’s Cyber-Security Policy, which is still in the draft stage, is to reduce the access points between government computers and the Internet from two thousand to fifty," Wright notes. "He claimed that cyber-theft account for as much as a hundred billion dollars in annual losses to the American economy. 'The real problem is the perpetrator who doesn’t care about stealing—he just wants to destroy.'"

    The infrastructure to tap into Americans' email and web search history may already be in place.

    In November, a former technician at AT&T alleged that the telecom forwarded virtually all of its Internet traffic into a "secret room" to facilitate government spying.

    Whistleblower Mark Klein said that a copy of all Internet traffic passing over AT&T lines was copied into a locked room at the company's San Francisco office -- to which only employees with National Security Agency clearance had access -- via a cable splitting device.

    "My job was to connect circuits into the splitter device which was hard-wired to the secret room," Klein. said "And effectively, the splitter copied the entire data stream of those Internet cables into the secret room -- and we're talking about phone conversations, email web browsing, everything that goes across the Internet."

    "As a technician, I had the engineering wiring documents, which told me how the splitter was wired to the secret room," Klein continued. "And so I know that whatever went across those cables was copied and the entire data stream was copied."

    According to Klein, that information included Internet activity about Americans.

    "We're talking about domestic traffic as well as international traffic," Klein said. Previous Bush administration claims that only international communications were being intercepted aren't accurate, he added.

    "I know the physical equipment, and I know that statement is not true," he added. "It involves millions of communications, a lot of it domestic communications that they're copying wholesale."
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    Americans Spying, who would have thought.

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    bigheads trying to rule the world

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    Call it big brother, or bad stepmother.

    It makes freedom of speach difficult to practice.



    I was pretty peeved off when this was ended, found it a little bit of harmless fun between boys.

    Fernbay had good reason to end it though.

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    Lightbulb Porn ,Smut & Filth . . .

    Oh well, it's off to the old internet cafe,to google search "Lolita" teen sites for now on then ?
    Now that could be a future boom investment opportunity , an Internet Cafe with priviate partitions installed !

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    heard of big brother?

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    They just need to trap Googles traffic, F####ing A$$hairs.

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    We have to be careful...them terrorists are everywhere with their BOMBS.
    I hope they aren't thinking of HIJACKING a plane and maybe flying over the PENTAGON waving their KORAN out the windows.
    Rumour has it that some ARABS have been urinating on the pot plants at the airport thinking it acts as FERTILIZER, you know right near where the big buses with the dirty DIESEL motors sit all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by global88 View Post
    z80, you forgot to highlight the word airport together with your otherones.


    Yeah sorry, i forgot to add AIRPORT because i was preocccupied inserting my SIM CARD into my nokia pre-paid phone with data cable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by global88 View Post
    z80, you forgot to highlight the word airport together with your otherones.

    nah....the forum software has helped me out with a bug...

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    Time to encrypt our emails with irduhto2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwight View Post
    They just need to trap Googles traffic, F####ing A$$hairs.
    The US Gov has demanded that Google turn over their search engine requests in the past but Google has refused (even stating that the US government was acting like the Chinese government which ticked them off), so checking web traffic has been a huge thing for them. They have also set up "checking" areas with AT&T in the past and there was supposed to be a court case over this because they circumvented the courts to do so (dunno if its gonna happen).

    You know I wouldn't be suprised if the same thing happened here, with the start of net censorship by the current government already being implemented. I hope they do monitor emails, so they can do something about the spam problem. I'd hate to be a spy looking at emails because so many of them would just be about Penises.

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    Download this toolbar which just replaces the already available search toolbar on your browser.



    When you search on Google, your ip address and the time are stored in their database forever, as well as the subject searched. This inforation can be used against you in the court of law. Google will willingly allow authorities to consult their database, as you can see in the video below. When you search on Google through Googlonymous, it is Googlonymous that goes on Google and does the search for you. So the only ip address that Google will see belongs to Googlonymous, and Googlonymous does not keep record anything in its database (Googlonymous is not actually connected to any database). You can now search without a care in the world 100% anonymous.

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    I just use Ixquick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrElectricity View Post
    Americans Spying, who would have thought.
    The only difference is now they will admit to it!

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    z80, you forgot to highlight the word airport together with your otherones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by global88 View Post
    z80, you forgot to highlight the word airport together with your otherones.

    post #9 courtesy of the forum time scrambler...LOL

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