Vast activation

**gordon_s1942** · 09-03-12, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by lurk_relurking

Yes! Interesting is it not. We pay top dollar and we seem not to have any rights. Can you sell it? Activated or do you have to cancel the activation. Can you sell it at all?
A Dogs dinner regurgitated.

I have seen nothing in any documentation stating that the STB cannot be disposed of to another through Sale, Gift or Deed.
Nor any intructions regarding 'De-Activation' of a STB even if it has been replaced due to failing so basicaly once registered in your name, thats for Eternity !!
The only restrictions which I really havent read are the 'Area' of use if it is activated.
There has been nothing stated that I have seen regulating the number of STB's that an individual/company/business can have activated at any one time.

15 days is actualy quite mind blowingly fast considering it could take up to 6 MONTHS under the old Black Spot system for approval of Aurora commercial channels.

It is rather strange the PVR version wont record 'Closed Captions' when an attatched recorder to the AV OUTs does.
Not all shows have CC available and many never will most likely which must limit what those with hearing difficulties can see and enjoy.

**toyboy11** · 09-03-12, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by lurk_relurking

Yesterday activated a UEC PVR on the Mysat website. about 30 minutes later the ABC and SBS were alive. Nothing showing for the commercial channels. Sometime between then and 4PM the Western Australian commercial channels appeared on the channel list but the UEC says the card has not been activated for these channels.
How long does it usually take for the Commercial channels to be activated. THIS is in WA using a Optus Aurora card as entitlement. Last year I tried a test authorization and it went through and the email said I could get Vast because of the Optus card.

Ok then please tell us have you got all the channels working or not

As i said in #12 above UEC activation does not apply to your allready PVR box.

**toyboy11** · 09-03-12, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by lurk_relurking

Rang Mysat to find out what is going on. Now mind you we did apply for approval last year using our Optus card, and they told us we would be entitled to Vast.

Have you reapplyed on the mysat website quoting your optus card number and your stb number not by ringing them up

I've got 2 stb's ( not travellers) registered and never had a problem, talking to people over the phone dosen't get the same result as filling in a form.

Also i'm in WA

**beerman** · 09-03-12, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by OSIRUS

I also wonder about Travelers Activation

Technically after 6 months if you do not renew it, the channels are turned off

does this mean that it is no longer Vast Activated....?

& if so could you then sell the STB as Unactivated....?

or activate it with another Name ....?

And as the card and unit is matched what then? Can the original travellers card be reactivated if sold with the unit? Will another travellers card work (in other words, are travellers cards also matched to a particular box?).

Or will the box and card be as useless as a Telstra wifi dongle that the credit has expired for more than 90 days (you have to buy a new wifi dongle as it's deactivated and can't be reactivated - so they say).

**Rodnic** · 09-03-12, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by beerman

And as the card and unit is matched what then? Can the original travellers card be reactivated if sold with the unit? Will another travellers card work (in other words, are travellers cards also matched to a particular box?).

Or will the box and card be as useless as a Telstra wifi dongle that the credit has expired for more than 90 days (you have to buy a new wifi dongle as it's deactivated and can't be reactivated - so they say).

I let my travellers auth go over by 5 weeks. VAST did not stop working and I just renewed it and got another 6 months from that date. There is no difference in the cards, they are not travellers or fixed cards so I would say they could just be reauthed under a new owners name.

**toyboy11** · 09-03-12, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by beerman

And as the card and unit is matched what then? Can the original travellers card be reactivated if sold with the unit? Will another travellers card work (in other words, are travellers cards also matched to a particular box.

Yes they are you cannot change cards into different boxes.

**beerman** · 09-03-12, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by toyboy11

Yes they are you cannot change cards into different boxes.

Just as the regular VAST cards are then!

Ok, if you register a card as a travellers card, and you get sick and tied of renewing every six months, can you have it made permanent? Obviously that will also depend on where you live.

**mtv** · 09-03-12, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by beerman

Just as the regular VAST cards are then!

Ok, if you register a card as a travellers card, and you get sick and tied of renewing every six months, can you have it made permanent? Obviously that will also depend on where you live.

The cards are all the same, it's just the level of authorisation on them.

Yes, you can change a travellers status to fixed and vice versa.

Eg: you may have a VAST card/box activated at your approved fixed address, but you can take the box travelling and have access to the area you are travelling in, then change it back to your fixed status on return, then go travelling again, etc, etc.

**Tiny** · 09-03-12, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by toyboy11

Ok then please tell us have you got all the channels working or not

As i said in #12 above UEC activation does not apply to your allready PVR box.

Originally Posted by toyboy11

Have you reapplyed on the mysat website quoting your optus card number and your stb number not by ringing them up

Originally Posted by lurk_relurking

Sorry but you have got some confusion going on. The Yast Uec PVR box is a PVR. I think you need to re read as you seem confused.

The box has been activated for ABC and The SBS channels. The placeholders(?) for the commercial channels are there but when you try to view those channels the Box pops up a box informing me that "The smartcard has not been activated for these channels". This commercial channel activation is decided by the Channels through RAB, and is the part I'm upset about(15 working day wait for reply). I'm sorry, I can't make it any simpler, try rereading.

Hey Toyboy I don't think he needs to explain this to you over & over again. Read posts 1 & 2 over & over until you get it.
Are you a Blonde

**toyboy11** · 10-03-12, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Tiny

Are you a Blonde

No i,m not a blonde, anyway where is you contribution to the problem, i don't see you making any. You have VAST so tell us of your experience in getting your activation

you know every little bit helps!!!!!!

**Tiny** · 10-03-12, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by toyboy11

No i,m not a blonde, anyway where is you contribution to the problem, i don't see you making any. You have VAST so tell us of your experience in getting your activation

you know every little bit helps!!!!!!

Hope you now understand that Lurk is caught up in bureaucratic red tape & his best option IMHO is to wait out the 15 working days & see if he gets the full suite of channels activated. If not go the traveler option.

My contribution to this thread, post #11.

My experience with VAST activation is being one of the first on this forum to use the travelers option & answer questions about what I got.

**toyboy11** · 10-03-12, 06:35 PM

Well i wouldn't wait the 15 days, as lurk said he had an email stating that he would get approval.

If he still has that email he could send it back with the details of both optus and vast card numbers and they really could hardly knock him back, could they

I mean what's he got to loose they will either tell him that his application is being processed or activate his card straight away.

Then if all else fails and i don't think it would, he could then apply for a Travelers approval.

So that's the best i can offer any further help he needs he can find it here, but i wont be involved anymore

Regards toyboy 11

**mtv** · 10-03-12, 06:45 PM

Terrestrial digital translators are being installed in numerous areas, so if an area which has previously been granted access to Aurora/VAST has, or is slated to have, terrestrial digital translators installed, providing that area with terrestrial digital coverage, satellite FTA authorisation may be withdrawn.

This may explain why some applications are being reviewed.

Which in turn would open yet another tin of worms for those viewers who have been forced to fork out for satellite gear and not be permitted to continue using it.

**nbound** · 10-03-12, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by mtv

Which in turn would open yet another tin of worms for those viewers who have been forced to fork out for satellite gear and not be permitted to continue using it.

Which is theres the 6month before rule in non-remote areas, by which point this should all be nearly or completely finalised. But you would think affected people would be grandfathered through and allowed to continue watching it. When their gear finally packs it in, then they could either continue VAST, or more likely go for terrestrial

**gordon_s1942** · 11-03-12, 10:53 AM

I checked both my own locality again and the surrounding area and the Myswitch details have been changed AGAIN.
While I am still in a VAST approved locality after being 'advised' this time 12 months ago that the 'Broadcasters were considering installing a Translator' to cover this area, I noted other places in this area have been updated and more detail provided for the June 5 switchover date.
As I posted elswhere, a friend in a nearby location has been put 'On Hold' regarding his application for a VAST installation but no explantion was given why this has happened.
I will remind him to ring Techlife (installers) to see what the current situation is this Friday as over two weeks will have passed by then.
My own installation, 3rd attempt, is due this Tuesday 13th between 1 and 4 pm.
I wait in eager anticipation.................

**crabber** · 17-03-12, 07:16 PM

I am from the UK, staying in your lovely country escaping our winter as usual.
Today I helped a WA couple who have a new caravan and have just purchased a UEC D4212 (from memory I could be wrong) and mobile dish compass and meter.
I am loath to criticise your system but so far am absolutely staggered at what you have to put up with. Please correct me if I am wrong but the box scanned in only the channels that could be activated, what about say Al Jazerra, is it possible to view that or other any other FTA channels? if there were any of course that are not owned by the great media man residing in the USA and sometimes in the UK giving our politicians their orders.
Anyway they filled in the activation request online, as travellers, only one state is allowed for where you are travelling so it will be interesting to see what gets activated, they chose Queensland.
I will keep you posted, btw although the paperwork said both the card number and box number are needed, only the card number could be filled in online. I wonder if a card will activate to whatever box it happens to be in, just like our NDS cards?

**mtv** · 17-03-12, 08:16 PM