Page 4 of 4 FirstFirst 1234
Results 61 to 75 of 75

Thread: Security company, initiative lacking.

  1. #61
    2014 Austech AFL tipping champion.

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Maylands / Lesmurdie WA
    Age
    53
    Posts
    3,399
    Thanks
    192
    Thanked 1,523 Times in 804 Posts
    Rep Power
    541
    Reputation
    12203

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by itscrowtime View Post
    Are you serious, the monitoring station is paying you $750 because of the way they handled the situation?

    Yes,

    The complaints dept said, it could and should of been handled differently.
    He valued my input , we went over and over my new procedures to make sure I was happy with it.

    I believe one of the major items was that I wasn't given the knowledge on what would happen in the event of an alarm going off.

    Everyone who says it would of been written somewhere or they are just following your instructions, you are correct.

    The guy liked my idea of a checklist to be completed when transferring the security system from one party to another. That way both parties will know what each other want, and can ask relevant questions. As I said the guy met me for 10 minutes, as long as it took to change the master code and sign the direct debit forms.

    I have learnt more from this thread, than I have via my security company.
    I am now better prepared, but wish I was prior to the incident.

    Thanks everyone who contributed positively.



  • #62
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    1
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    0
    Reputation
    10

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by hughdman View Post
    I have learnt more from this thread, than I have via my security company.
    There are Signature and ADT techs on here

  • #63
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    208
    Thanks
    80
    Thanked 33 Times in 27 Posts
    Rep Power
    166
    Reputation
    484

    Default .

    Wow, i find it very funny that a company like ADT or signature failed to have you sign a completed commissioning form.
    Last edited by itscrowtime; 11-04-12 at 08:16 PM.

  • #64
    Junior Member balun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    237
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts
    Rep Power
    198
    Reputation
    57

    Default

    Just putting this out there, maybe one of the ADT and signature techs can confirm...... full of sh%$ in regards to the $750 payment- a company like ADT is not dumb enough to make an admission of guilt over something so trivial and straight forward...

    Guards can only stay onsite for a certain amount of time unless approved to stay there. common sense really, someone has to pay for a service.

  • #65
    2014 Austech AFL tipping champion.

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Maylands / Lesmurdie WA
    Age
    53
    Posts
    3,399
    Thanks
    192
    Thanked 1,523 Times in 804 Posts
    Rep Power
    541
    Reputation
    12203

    Default

    Balun it's not really a $750 payment, they aren't charging me for 3 months which is in effect saving me $750.00.

    Where have I said there is an admission of guilt, I've said they agreed it could of been handled better, there is alot of scope there. No one nowadays admits guilt. But I accepted the 3 months payment and lets called it reward or whatever.

    It maybe trivial and straight forward to someone in the business, but we ain't all in the business.

    As I've said many times before, I was told about the damage, I was not told that the guard is waiting there for my confirmation, as to whether he could leave. (maybe that was the error).

    And balun if you want I'll email you the invoices when they come for the next 3 months.

  • #66
    Senior Member
    downunderdan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Sydney Metropolitan
    Posts
    2,497
    Thanks
    163
    Thanked 601 Times in 422 Posts
    Rep Power
    365
    Reputation
    4649

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by hughdman View Post
    Balun it's not really a $750 payment, they aren't charging me for 3 months which is in effect saving me $750.00.
    [facepalm]

  • #67
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    503
    Thanks
    92
    Thanked 50 Times in 37 Posts
    Rep Power
    220
    Reputation
    293

    Default

    I know Days of Our Lives is still on in America but this is heading up to be come a close 2nd

  • #68
    2014 Austech AFL tipping champion.

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Maylands / Lesmurdie WA
    Age
    53
    Posts
    3,399
    Thanks
    192
    Thanked 1,523 Times in 804 Posts
    Rep Power
    541
    Reputation
    12203

    Default

    I'm not sure of the protocol in regards to customer complaints. I spoke to the rep for nearly an hour about, what was done, why it was done, how it was done etc etc.

    I voiced my concerns over several issues and he said he welcomed the feedback. He offered me 2 months free, I then negotiated 3, (that's the pawnbroker in me) and he was happy to comply.

    Call it reward,payment ,reimbursement, loyalty bonus, call it whatever all I know is I'm saving $750.00.

    I agree wholeheartedly about the guard staying on site and yes someone has to pay for that. I also agree it pretty pointless ringing someone and asking them do you want a guard to stay on site, because if you do, we will ring back the guard and get him to return.

    It is ashame that I found out the procedures weren't the best via a break-in, and as I've said numerous times I take all the responsibility, Forewarned is Forearmed.

    Thank You and Goodnight.

    The End

  • #69
    Junior Member balun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    237
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts
    Rep Power
    198
    Reputation
    57

    Default

    the reason you are getting 3 months free is because you are getting absolutely routed on the cost of your monitoring and i can now see why they want to keep you as a client.

    maybe your a difficult client so they charge you accordingly?

  • The Following User Says Thank You to balun For This Useful Post:

    sirporky (14-04-12)

  • #70
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    WA
    Age
    54
    Posts
    222
    Thanks
    17
    Thanked 35 Times in 27 Posts
    Rep Power
    207
    Reputation
    246

    Default

    I hope 62$ a week includes multiple physical guard checks a night!
    Standard alarm, without special communication backups I think its pretty industry standard for about $7.00 to $10.
    Last edited by Privatteer; 19-04-12 at 12:46 AM.

  • #71
    2014 Austech AFL tipping champion.

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Maylands / Lesmurdie WA
    Age
    53
    Posts
    3,399
    Thanks
    192
    Thanked 1,523 Times in 804 Posts
    Rep Power
    541
    Reputation
    12203

    Default

    I'm failing to understand you Balun, in one comment you say I'm being a tight ass and should be paying more for monitoring and then you say I'm getting ripped off.

    Surely your not suggesting that the security companies rip people off.

    I am on a contract/plan with the security company, so they didn't have to give me anything free.

    The amount I pay covers the maintenance/install of the gear. I took over the business when the owner was just 1 year into the contract. I didn't want the company to rip it all out, bill him accordingly, then leave it with me to arrange.

    I wouldn't say, I'm difficult, as I said I took over the previous arrangement.

  • The Following User Says Thank You to hughdman For This Useful Post:

    downunderdan (19-04-12)

  • #72
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Sydney :P~~~
    Posts
    1,051
    Thanks
    8
    Thanked 74 Times in 54 Posts
    Rep Power
    246
    Reputation
    657

    Default

    Okay i know I'm entering this late, but clarify this for me.

    The first alarm that went off was a glass break detector... is that THE ONLY ALARM that ADT told you had activated? Sureley if someone was inside there would have been subsequent activations??

    Id be checking the history report from ADT, it sounds to me like there were subsequent alarms that you weren't notified about.

    Chances are the alarm went off (single alarm) crook ran and hid, patrol came and went, crook went back in and those alarms weren't actioned.
    There is no way a patrol would miss a door totally smashed in.. reporting it as a 20cm hole..

  • #73
    2014 Austech AFL tipping champion.

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Maylands / Lesmurdie WA
    Age
    53
    Posts
    3,399
    Thanks
    192
    Thanked 1,523 Times in 804 Posts
    Rep Power
    541
    Reputation
    12203

    Default

    You are correct in everything you say.

    Keyholder is always activated when there is evidence of a break-in or attempt. This is regardless of instructions they have from keyholder,as my instructions were on all alarms send guards.

    Yes there were subsequent alarms and they said they followed my instructions and sent the guard out. They didn't notify me of this as my instructions said on all alarms send out guards.

    And yes I agree in what you describe probably happened.

  • #74
    Senior Member
    downunderdan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Sydney Metropolitan
    Posts
    2,497
    Thanks
    163
    Thanked 601 Times in 422 Posts
    Rep Power
    365
    Reputation
    4649

    Default

    Hughdman, for what it's worth, the "send guards to all alarms" is very respectable. I cringe at the number of alarm owners who are loath to spend money on:
    a) A decently installed, well maintained system with few false alarms and
    b) Alarm response when it does go off.

    Instead, they want monitoring centres earning SFA to ring half a dozen mobile phones to save them a few dollars when it really counts, because it's probably a false alarm like the last dozen.

    In most cases a response is a while away and every minute delayed in despatching, is more of a chance of your place being cleared out.

    I like the American approach in a number of cities. Alarm goes off, cops respond (and they get flashing lights and sirens). However false alarms have a high cost attached to them.

  • #75
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Age
    71
    Posts
    244
    Thanks
    71
    Thanked 90 Times in 56 Posts
    Rep Power
    0
    Reputation
    619

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by downunderdan View Post
    I like the American approach in a number of cities. Alarm goes off, cops respond (and they get flashing lights and sirens). However false alarms have a high cost attached to them.
    Great idea, make those who don't maintain their alarms pay for the unwanted visits. But can you imagine Australian cops doing that? I think not! The burglars would be in Havana by the time they responded to an alarm!

  • Page 4 of 4 FirstFirst 1234

    Bookmarks

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •