4 Corners tonight

[kclar]

I am in WA and mining is the only thing going well over here , the construction industry is in the dodrums in Perth .

[anyone]

I am in WA and mining is the only thing going well over here , the construction industry is in the dodrums in Perth .

very close to right thou dont think the mining industry was adding employment during the gfc,i remember reading they actually layed a bundle off as they consider profits even before they open up, sure we are getting the usual spin about offshore workers from the magnates, just try and get a job there even with experience isnt as easy for aussies, as usual the apprentice levels are low as they prefer skilled trady's etc,federal labour should have left it at naru etc as was under howard, and i hated him, about the only good thing he did

[beer4life]

Amelia Reinhardt.
Squealing that she want's more.
At the expensive of all Australia, but particularly West Australia.

Is there no end to this Megalomania?

[mborkp]

load of spin as usual by the wa gov

From the above link

A few weeks before Mr Barnett became Premier, it was $3.6 billion.

Did he took over from the Labor? can't remember...

[anyone]

Australian Labor Party government, in power since the 2001 election and led since 25 January 2006 by Premier Alan Carpenter, was defeated by the centre-right Liberal Party opposition, led by Opposition Leader Colin Barnett since 6 August 2008.

Did he took over from the Labor? can't remember...

sure did, with the nationals help

[mborkp]

somehing must be wrong with those numbers then, this is not what Libs do as I'm constantly told on this forum

[xnavyman]

As usual, It's Tony's fault!!!

[mborkp]

As usual, It's Tony's fault!!!

nahhhh, Julia is my bet

[anyone]

its WA and not tonie's fault,,hahaha the libs threw a stack of cash at the bush for the nats vote, being a long time lab supporter i think the current feds have let the country down badly,especially on the boats,and females in general, we house plenty of que jumpers here

[mborkp]

its WA and not tonie's fault,,hahaha the libs threw a stack of cash at the bush for the nats vote, being a long time lab supporter i think the current feds have let the country down badly,especially on the boats,and females in general, we house plenty of que jumpers here

Sure, federal politics has not much to do with the WA debt, we are just having some fun with xnavyman. By me, the boat people "problem" (among few others) is now and then blow up out of proportion to divert electorate attention from the real issues like economy, reforms and so on. There is no real discussion about anything, just relentles slander. If the boat people were a REAL issue I'm sure both parties would agree on something.

Lib strategy/job is to discredit the Lab gov. as much as possible and that's what they do. They count on electorate to get confused and easily moulded like a brainless dough. Don't pay too much attention to this noise, take it easy and have some fun

Cheers

[luvpkn]

Sure, federal politics has not much to do with the WA debt, we are just having some fun with xnavyman. By me, the boat people "problem" (among few others) is now and then blow up out of proportion to divert electorate attention from the real issues like economy, reforms and so on. There is no real discussion about anything, just relentles slander. If the boat people were a REAL issue I'm sure both parties would agree on something.

Lib strategy/job is to discredit the Lab gov. as much as possible and that's what they do. They count on electorate to get confused and easily moulded like a brainless dough. Don't pay too much attention to this noise, take it easy and have some fun

Cheers

I agree on the slander and policy void but the Australian public does seem to think that in the interest of a fair go, the people that use their wealth to cheat the system and and pay their way into Aus illegally destroying their paperwork in the process, allowing criminals (Captain Emad) are in fact a massive issue.

I have to hope that the majority of true Aussies would be receptive to all queue jumpers being delivered to Kenya and a one for one swap being made with the refugees nominated by the UN.

[enf]

somehing must be wrong with those numbers then, this is not what Libs do as I'm constantly told on this forum

Ummmm...no your not told that. What you have been told is that the country as a whole had a surplus of 60 billion which labour has erased in 5 years to a debt of what? 100-120 billion? Increasing by 100 million a day or something?

Can't remember as the figures on the labour lotto machine spin so rapidly....almost as fast as the spin machine denies them....

WA has been largely shielded for years, but that is disappearing now as they are increasingly saddled with Federal and Eastern State labour debt. Take away billions in GST revenue that Swann and company have pirated and balancing the books is almost impossible. If the GFC dominos overseas start to really tumble, then mining will not save us. Someone has to have a buck to buy the ore. As much as I detest importing foreign workers, that little problem pales when compared to automation. My younger brother is involved in setting up these mines, and he tells me the potential for job losses is staggering.

I am increasingly sceptical that ANY government will be able to pay off the debt as it now stands, let alone in a few more years. Socialism is just plain unaffordable in my opinion...it runs on debt, not productivity. Australians are in for a rude shock IMO.

[mborkp]

I agree on the slander and policy void but the Australian public does seem to think that in the interest of a fair go, the people that use their wealth to cheat the system and and pay their way into Aus illegally destroying their paperwork in the process, allowing criminals (Captain Emad) are in fact a massive issue.

I have to hope that the majority of true Aussies would be receptive to all queue jumpers being delivered to Kenya and a one for one swap being made with the refugees nominated by the UN.

luvpkn, with all the respect, I think you just fall a victim of opposition's brain manipulation tactics. Let's face it, 1 criminal in how many arrivals? According to Libs friendly, The Australian 10 000 (fancy tittle "Boatpeople top 10,000 since Gillard coup" )
that make it 0.01%. OK, was there more? let's make it 10 so 0.1%.

Appart from that you swallow, accept and use, the carefully manufactured term "que jumper", you seem to be worry and maybe guilty about it.
What percentage of your fellow Australians can't afford what they wish for or really need to function?
According to this , two million. What was a population of Australaia in 2007? Again, turning to The Australian data , 21,180,632 That makes it 9.44% of population.

See, my point? You don't worry about your brother affordibility to buy a house, or your neighbour to get employed, or your sister to have a kid and educate it, you are bussy to think about que jumpers, not the really affecting you issue.

[mborkp]

enf, I'm really tired after the night shift and after four'th dose of home made quince liqier I'm not able to write on this forum. The only thing in my head now is sex before the sleep. Since my wife left for work, I think I will print out Gina's picture and have a 0.5s wank.
Hmmmmmmm....
I wish you a nice day

[luvpkn]

I appreciate what your saying Mborkp but I do worry about all these other issue, the amount of money given to the world bank euro bail out appalls me, these people hounding me on the street asking nay, demanding that I give money for overseas charity when ther are homeless people in the ally behind them.
Its the labour spin of the 4.9% unemployement that doesn't include those with part time employement of 10hrs a week and less. we have a middle class poverty issue in this country that seems to go un noticed by the herd.

But the real point Mborkp is that the subject of this particular thread is the illegal entry of foreign nationals to our country, the ones that jump the designed process installed by the UN (hence queue jumper) and destroy their papers making it easier for them to lie about who they are and making our job of identifying them correctly almost imposible.

That is probably why you see these opinions from me here!

[mborkp]

luvpkn, this is my last strokes toward the keyboard, all this shvit is a Police/Emmigration matter so sleep sound, and yes you are right we drifted away from topic... have nice day!

[enf]

On topic....the joke continues....he escaped despite being under surveillance..

Immigration Minister Chris Bowen yet to act on alleged people-smuggling kingpin

FOUR days after "Captain Emad" was exposed as an alleged people-smuggling kingpin, Immigration Minister Chris Bowen still doesn't know whether he can revoke the man's refugee visa.

Mr Bowen was today under pressure to reveal how long he'd known of the allegations against Iraqi-born refugee Ali al-Abassi, and why he'd failed to cancel his visa before he fled the country.

Mr Al-Abassi triggered a movement alert at Melbourne Airport on Tuesday night, but police let him board an overseas flight believing they had insufficient evidence to detain or charge him.

Opposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison said Mr Bowen should reveal whether he knew of the allegations against Mr Al-Abassi before they were aired by the ABC's Four Corners on Monday night.

“How long has the minister known?” Mr Morrison asked on Sky News.

“If the minister didn't find out that he had a people-smuggler on his protection visa books until Monday night when the program went to air on Four Corners, then that is a catastrophic breakdown of communication within this government.”

Mr Bowen asked his department on Tuesday morning to advise him on whether he could revoke the Canberra man's refugee visa.

His spokesman said today that the minister was still awaiting that advice.

“As the minister has already made very clear, the department is actively reviewing new information and will report back to him on whether there are grounds for reconsidering the refugee status of this alleged people-smuggler as soon as possible,” the spokesman said.

He said Mr Bowen had proceeded with caution, citing the bungled cancellation of Indian doctor Mohamed Haneef's visa by the former Howard government.

“We do not ride roughshod over due process - that leads to debacles like the Haneef visa cancellation,” the minister's spokesman said.

Mr Morrison said if Mr Bowen had known about the allegations against Mr Al-Abassi and had felt he was unable to act against him, he should have consulted the opposition on amendments to the Migration Act.

Refugee visas are unable to be suspended, unlike temporary protection visas advocated by the opposition.

Tony Abbott today condemned the government's handling of the case, saying the public was “flabbergasted” that Mr Al-Abassi was allowed to leave the country.

Mr Abbott said the government, rather than police, should have acted against Mr Al-Abassi.

“I think it's very hard to take our government seriously when a computer can catch these guys but the government can't,” he said.

Home Affairs Minister Jason Clare said he had “absolute faith” in the Australian Federal Police and its decision to allow Mr Al-Abassi to leave the country.

“Unfortunately there is a difference between compiling information for a television program and compiling information for court, and that is despite the work that police have done over the past two years,” he said.

[mborkp]

On topic....the joke continues....he escaped despite being under surveillance..

"Unfortunately there is a difference between compiling information for a television program and compiling information for court, and that is despite the work that police have done over the past two years,” he said."

That should summarise this another Abbot's spin. One of many reason I left communist country was that the Police could arrest and hold people for 48hrs with no reason. Guess what, as soon as they been released they have been arrested again. If Abbot wants to live in a dictatorship, he should choose one of many still existing and move there.

[enf]

"Unfortunately there is a difference between compiling information for a television program and compiling information for court, and that is despite the work that police have done over the past two years,” he said."

That should summarise this another Abbot's spin. One of many reason I left communist country was that the Police could arrest and hold people for 48hrs with no reason. Guess what, as soon as they been released they have been arrested again. If Abbot wants to live in a dictatorship, he should choose one of many still existing and move there.

Excuse me? Isn't it labor the party that wants to censor the internet and therefore freedom of expression that you so love and expect with the NBN? And that you left the oppressive country for? Or is Conroy an Abbott stooge. Actually, given his intelligence he's someones stooge.

The police have had 2 years (that they admit to). The politicians (labor ones) are so befuddled that the laws and procedures that they have put in place forfend a clear response by the relevant department. And the crook leaves, with police permission. It looks DUMB. It IS DUMB. That you defend it is DUMB.

Would he have been able to leave if he was on a TPV? Maybe not, but your political love buddies got rid of them. You know the ones...the things that worked.

[mborkp]

Blame the TV crew for blowing up the Police investigation. TPV or PPV can be both cancelled but it needs a base. TV alegations are not enough in both cases. Have a shower, cool down.