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    Read in yesterdays paper that there is a new system from Italy I think, that leaves the gas in a liquid state right up to the manifold, then gets sprayed through a modified injector/module. Apparently it does away with the mixer as such and saves on installation time. It also improves efficienty as unlike most gas systems that use upto 30% more gas than you would petrol,this system uses only 5% more. Sounds very impressive. the think the distributor is in Melbourne called the LPG warehouese or something.



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    It sounds like the level of efficiency of the system i had put into a cuppla cars recently.

    It wouldn't be called "vapour injection" would it?

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    No, what you have Zed is vapour injection.

    The lpg still enters a converter and is then distributed to each injecter individually in a converted vapour gas form.

    Best explained here


    The new system was developed back in 2006 in Italy and works on the gas staying in high pressure liquid form all the way to the injecters.
    No converter.
    The injecters are fitted directly into the intake manifold and pointed to the back of the intake valves which also provides greater cooling of them.
    The injecters operate at higher than normal pressures.
    Much more effecient than vapour gas injection.

    LPG technologies are really going forward now.

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    That sounds like the way to go...might even be cheaper?

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    Yes, i also belive it should be cheaper but like everything else in life it will probably cost more because it is better..

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    Hmm i take it as a cost factor that this type of system would be only suitible for late modle cars then??

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    When saying late you mean EFI then yes.

    Cannot work on carb unless you can convert it to efi.

    Probably the only limitation on efi cars is if the kit has been made to suit.

    There shouldnt be any major differance between a 1992 or 2008 efi system, only some minor details that should be easyly overcome during the conversion like cylinder shut down technologies and the like.

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    Why we always the last to get this technology, sounds like its just the thing, and with improved economy you would have to go this way. Sounded like this guy had the only licence for it in melbourne, hope it gets picked up by more shops.

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    I think he's a major long time distributor of lpg systems.

    Like anything new give it time to get out, installers to get use to it and public opinion to start comming out.

    With early systems we had mixers and carbs converted to lpg, then rings in the inlet system, all very restrictive to the intake and not efficient at making good use of the fuel.
    Newer sytems such as vapour injection were a large leap forward such as the change when cars went from carbs to fuel injection in the early days.
    The new direct port injection is another step forward in making the best efficient use of the fuel.

    The better they make it the more will convert, LPG is a great cheap fuel.

    Then watch the govt tax the crap out of it

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    Yeah good points global, i can just see the tax office thinking Hmmmm what can we screw Joe Public with next????

    Whats the bet we end up paying more than a dollar a litre before too long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red2zero View Post
    Yeah good points global, i can just see the tax office thinking Hmmmm what can we screw Joe Public with next????
    Plastic Bag tax here in Victoria

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    hey guys
    how much is a normal conversion to lpg these days, and does the govt rebate still apply?

    planning on doing a 97 ford falcon
    how much mileage would i get off a tank of gas also?

    cheers

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    I dont have the current conversion prices and subsities offered but i paid less than $1400 back in 2000 for a 93 ford falcon thats before any govt subsities were around.

    Mileage with my old school system is around 400km city 480 hwy. Remember that these old falcons are not very fuel effiecent and early gas systems arnt that good with mileage.

    Thats 68 litres to fill and cost varies upto $40 max to fill.
    Newer Fords get much better mileage.

    Fitting of one of the newer gas systems would even be better still.

    I look at it this way.
    $80 worth of petrol in a 4 cly camry gets me 400 to 450km.
    $40 worth of gas in a 6 cly ford gets me about the same distance.

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    Urban, here is the site bascially the govt rebates $2000 for your conversion so shop around and see whats the best deal you can get and you end up paying anything thats above the 2K. As Global said go for one of the newer systems they have better efficienty and economy if you afford it.

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