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    Default Map updates for 2012 onwards Toyota Nav systems

    Latest Toyota Navigation system...

    Maps are 2012 Q1.

    But the car is plated as manufactured Jan 2013 / first registered Feb 2013 by me - NEW CAR.

    My point is that a new car >$55K should not be lumped with a map that is as good as 12 months old.

    Dealer is claiming that they can do much and that TOYOTA holds the cards...

    In the process of dealing with the Dealer and Warranty claim to see if I can get updated maps. One map (no updates and is $300 from Toyota).

    From what I can tell it is an IGO format on the SD card, but there is a lot hard coded into the head as many sys.txt setting I tried do not work ...

    Below is what is standard... And appears to reference that it is a Fujitsu 10 and Australian Toyota.

    [device]
    type="ften_gavn11"
    sku="aus_toy"

    NOTE: Due to issues with mobile phones and fear of being taken to court; the head units are coded to de activate changing map settings OR even answering or dialling out. Answer / Hang up via steering wheel is the cleanest option...

    BOT.

    Tried putting on a later map and licence files and the system fires up / buttons active on the touch screen but NO map visiable ???

    Tried some other tricks and then got map / licence errors.

    Restored the SD card the original status and all OK... be it 2012 Q1 maps...

    Any one been down this track and worked out what needs to be done ???



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    This seems to be common with oem gps units. Not only Toyota but most brands as well.
    Seen the same rants all over the place even in the auto section of papers.
    A lot seem to use what looks like proprietry iGO or similar programs written to suit that manufacturer.
    I havent seen a sucessful non genuine fix ... yet.

    Tried any Toyota forums?

    http://www.whereismaps.com/buy-map-updates_built-in-car-navigation_product.aspx?view=23&_$ja=kw:maps+for+t oyota|cgn:Toyota|cgid:1588182146|tsid:19085|cn:Car +-+Toyota|cid:64332746|lid:16239497966|mt:Broad|nw:s earch|crid:18053510666&s_kwcid=TC|18416|maps%20for %20toyota||S|b|18053510666

    The WhereIs maps cost about $295 per map update !! This is surely a real rip off as you can purchase a new licensed gps for 1/2 of that with the latest Sensis maps (Aldi etc)
    Its also only just ONE file.
    Sadly the Sensis (and other brands) files are encrypted/coded to only work on one unit.

    Looks like a new way to print money on newer vehicles. Must be Thousands of owners looking to update maps... that why they now appear 1/2 price on enbay

    I advise friends to NOT get oem gps units and wait til a chinese clone comes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bazzle01 View Post

    I advise friends to NOT get oem gps units and wait til a chinese clone comes out.

    Bazzle
    All devices offered today, regardless whether no-names or well known OEMs, if they are running Windows (Embedded) CE defintly are garbage you should leave fingers off, this because Windows (Embedded) CE inbetween became a dead OS (Note that CE 6.0 was relesed in September 2006, latest update dates September 2009). This fact also know the majority of navigation software authors like TomTom, NNG, Sygic, Navigon, Route66, etcetera: They now all (since 1 year ago) offer their product ready for Android based devices. You will not find anywhere an accurate Windows (Embedded) CE version of their navigation software. All these CE related versions are miserably outdated.
    My advice: buy an Android based unit with inbuilt GPS module; that is safe of future.

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    Info says IGO and version 9.2.2.2

    But there is some link-up with the head unit and the lic files....

    Doubt it would be as simple as renaming a working lic file to the toyota one...

    Drop in a new map and it correctly identifies version but states that is has inactive content......
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    iGO (all versions) can process maps provided by either Navteq, or TeleAtlas or TopMap. For example, latest Navteq maps are Q3.2012 (11 Dec 2012).

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    Tried even more tricks and file re naming and Lic files etc and same issue every time.

    States the maps details Navteq 2012 Q3 (xxxxxx) and then states that is has inactive content ?

    If I change to many files then the system will not even boot and tells me that it can not read the data on the SD card.

    The standard map is Navteq yet the Toyota web pages suggest the map provider is WhereIS. But I think it depends on which model / year the car is.

    Would be happy to pay a reasonable fee, but $300 plus for one update is crap. On another car fourm they have also hinted that Toyota only release a new map every 18 months to 2 years...

    Now if your in a small place and only travel on occasion... May be OK.

    When you in a major city or need to travel through one, then with tunnels and major changes every other months, 18 months is a laugh.

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    Re-install (AUS /NZ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwoegerbauer View Post
    Re-install (AUS /NZ).
    Please explain reinstall..

    Have downloaded previously and placed the map on the SD card and it just states "inactive content".

    Trying to download again, but as usual many links have been removed....

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    Check pm

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    Ok so still no ability to run other maps...

    The Fujitsu Ten must have the app hard coded... IGO 9.2.2.2.x.x.xxx

    The Map and Licence files are locked...

    There is no option on the Fujitsu Ten to select a Navigation Path so as to allow another Navigation product to run.

    So Only way at this stage is to share the latest Map and Licence file between other Toyota users that have the same system and split the costs.

    I have no problems paying $ for an item or even paying for Map updates; but hate being over charged because we are in Australia....

    Toyota $365 WhereIs $295 Subaru $149 all doing the Exact same Fujitsu Ten head unit...
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    Costs seem to be similar o/s as Ive seen ohn other forums.
    Ask on here to see if they have any ideas to help?

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    Have you tried to update with Naviextra software.


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    Downloaded their tools, but it " does not seem to recognise the Toyota SD card " ?

    And they do not list Toyota as a client ? But Subaru use the same Fujitsu Ten head shell.

    My car is in for its first one month warranty and I am pushing for a map update... But do not hold out much hope. Hence here and a few other places are plan B.




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    Have you tried to update with Naviextra software.


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    It was a long shot, Toyota are just plain greedy. Good luck in getting them to update the maps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joezep View Post
    It was a long shot, Toyota are just plain greedy. Good luck in getting them to update the maps.
    Another car manufacturer Subaru has the exact same head unit... Their Map upgrade is the same time frames etc but only $149 . This trick is to find some one to confirm that their SD card will work in the Toyota :-)

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    Im wondering how much money these companies would make if they charged a 'fair' fee for a fresh download over the Net.

    Sorry cant do that 'Middle' men would miss out

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    Well I have tried a few tricks and given up...

    Can copy and or use correct licence files and the system will work . But can not copy the SD card. Has two partitions and even after editing SD serial numbers and hashes, and coping the partitions in ray mode. The system will not work with a copied SD card even with the correct files on them...

    The map people will not sell the updated maps (available now) and just re direct to the dealer and the dealer is stating at least another 6 months before the next map release... WTF.

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    It's not wondering me, because there is no mean to edit/change an SD-card's CID. You only can read CID on SD card. More info .

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    Quote Originally Posted by comp_dad View Post
    Well I have tried a few tricks and given up...

    Can copy and or use correct licence files and the system will work . But can not copy the SD card. Has two partitions and even after editing SD serial numbers and hashes, and coping the partitions in ray mode. The system will not work with a copied SD card even with the correct files on them...

    The map people will not sell the updated maps (available now) and just re direct to the dealer and the dealer is stating at least another 6 months before the next map release... WTF.
    Same here have tried everything, have the latest maps here for updating but wont work, may have to look at 8" replacement unit off ebay.

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    have you tried changing your sys text to:

    [device]
    type=generic_device

    the fujitsu 10 data/config/devices file:

    !include:config/devices/FTEN_GAVN11BASE.ini

    [tmc]
    rds_tmc=1

    [fujitsuten]
    region="aus"
    lcids="0x0c09"


    [vr]
    vde_address_mode=0

    [gps]
    default_latitude=-35.306538
    default_longitude=149.126546

    I am currently playing with a hino truck unit, can get primo working fine, except no connection to inbuilt gps.....
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