Are these trees shown in pics obstructing Asiasat3s signals???

[thebest937]

Hi Everyone,

I am putting my concerns in front of experts here with my recent struggle of getting Asiasat3s signals. I am not new to this and been in installing for myself and other mates from long time and do have small signal finder and Satking WS 6905 which gives me a quick connect to signals.

I have recently moved to this new town house and I had a doubt that I may or may not get Asiasat3s signals.

I have tried whole day and couldn't get the quality more than %8-9. I have not given up yet and want to try once more before I giveup.
I would like to move the dish straight back around 8-9 meters back and see if I can get the signals there?

There are trees as you guys can see in the attached pics but they are not very close they are 2-3 units far and I was thinking if they still obstruct the asiasat3s signals?









Anybody can please confirm me ASAP if I can move the dish back 8 meters and can get the signals for ASIASAT3S?
Thanks in advance

Arshad Wasif- Brisbane, Australia

[mtv]

Extremely difficult to tell from the picture angle, but I would be more inclined to think the tree immediately to the right in the upper right corner would be an issue, more than what the distant trees would be.

If the dish is aligned correctly in the pic, a better position would be moving the dish to the left (towards the house) probably raising its height if required. Eg: mounting it on the roof.

[thebest937]

Thanks for quick reply. I am really confused now to go which direction?
I am also renting this place so, the roof option is not for me. The only 2 option I am left with is to get the higher pole if it can get the clear signal through those trees or moving it left as you said if can get the clear view. But all still just rely on tries...I will try the option of moving ti back and see if I can get any clear view through the trees.

Any other suggestion please do throw...

Thanks

[mtv]

Moving it back might actually increase the amount of tree in the view (the one on the right I mentioned).

The pic doesn't show a lot of that tree, so it's only a guess.

Also, how well is the lower edge of the dish clearing the fence?

Moving it back will help with the fence clearance, as would a height increase.

[thebest937]

Is there any distance limit that can really block the signals? (facing trees)

According to what you said than I am only left with an option of raising the pole height and moving the dish to left towards house?

[beer4life]

Is there any distance limit that can really block the signals? (facing trees)

According to what you said than I am only left with an option of raising the pole height and moving the dish to left towards house?

My perception is the mast has a lean to PORT. Either that or the fence palings are listing to STARBOARD.
It should be plumb.( Vertical in all directions.
I've re-sized your Photo, where this is now obvious. Already mentioned, the tree to the right, is of major concern, no matter where you erect the dish.
Dish pointer will help with obstacle clearance.

[thebest937]

Thanks , where do I get this dishpointer and is it free to install ? Also, I am not very clear as what you said with reference to vertical directions?

[mtv]

Thanks , where do I get this dishpointer and is it free to install ?

It's an online tool... free, no installation required.

It uses Google Earth/Maps satellite view.

Enter your address and the desired satellite, then move the marker to where your dish is.

Use the Obstacle Checker to get an approximation of distances.

The more I see of that tree, the more obvious that's your main issue

[LeroyPatrol]

dishpointer.com is a website.

Seeing the dish is not motorised, having the post plumb is not of a major concern.

Leroy

[beer4life]

Thanks , where do I get this dishpointer and is it free to install ? Also, I am not very clear as what you said with reference to vertical directions?

Yes, it's free, input your street address, choose Satellite, zoom in, click and drag the Icon to where you want to put the Dish, then you can select obstacle Icon to where the trees are to obtain height and distance.
Just yell if having trouble.



Plumb means Mast Vertical with a spirit level at 90⁰ to each other, say N-S and E-W.

[nbound]

My perception is the mast has a lean to PORT. Either that or the fence palings are listing to STARBOARD.
It should be plumb.( Vertical in all directions.
I've re-sized your Photo, where this is now obvious. Already mentioned, the tree to the right, is of major concern, no matter where you erect the dish.
Dish pointer will help with obstacle clearance.

If he is after one sat only. It doesnt matter how its mounted, it can be on a pole at 45 degrees and upsidedown as long dish points the right way, and LNB skew is configured correctly. Im not saying be sloppy, but a bit of tilt is neither here nor there (Seen a Foxtel dish lately!?).


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OP, the only things that will affect the signal are those directly in front of the dish.

See following pic.



Yours is the axial type. A Foxtel dish is the offset type.

[thebest937]

Thanks heaps guys...that was great output for me to collect.

I will try every last effort before I give up. I am going to use the tool and see what are the results...

Thanks all

[thebest937]

Guys, I have used the application and had entered my address and it gave me a green line. But how to use it to find out if there is any blockage?

I have attached photo...

[nbound]

By the looks you need to swing it into that tree. Unlucky.

Unless there is a large gap in/over/under said tree.

[thebest937]

That attachment was at low resolution...maybe this one below

[mtv]

Guys, I have used the application and had entered my address and it gave me a green line. But how to use it to find out if there is any blockage?

Drag the red marker along the green line to where you need to see clearance figures. Eg: the blocking tree, then read the figures.

d = distance the dish is from the object.

h = height the dish/signal needs for a clear view.

From the pic it's still hard to tell if it will clear the tree from the camera angle.

If you can spin the perspective around, so you look olong the linne itself, it will give you a better indication.

I think there's an option to look at it in Google Earth, then you ca rotate the view, etc.

[thebest937]

I am thinking to get the longer pole maybe double height of what it shows in pics and moving it to the left so that pole goes 1m deep and have support with roof sides.

Anyone with opinion or suggestion and can indicate chances of getting the signals?

[mtv]

The only accurate way of determining clearances is to be there, aligning the dish accurately and viewing the signal path in person.

The best I can give you remotely is the figures based on dishpointer, using the obstacle checker, indicating if that tree is higher than around 7 metres, it will be blocking signals.

Here's a pic looking from behind your dish, which suggests AS3 will have your dish pointing directly into that tree.

Once again, impossible to determine with any great accuracy without physically being there.

[SS Dave]

hello chainsaw and a tree trimming.

[apsattv]

Find someone with an Iphone and grab the satfinder app that will let you overlay the satellite arc over the live cam view.
That should give you a better idea.