Ok... Using a current model 4-Stroke Enduro Bike or Motorcross Bike as a Motard road bike is nothing new...
Plenty of 17" wheel kits with huge front disk brake rotors and spacers.
The Motard is a great Dual Purpose bike for both dirt and road with a 30minute wheel change.
The Husaberg FS650e being one of my favourites......
There is now a company that will make the entire change to road racer.
I have had plenty of fun on Motards over the years, but not quite sure why you would go this far.... But there is no doubting, the finished product is pretty impressive.
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I know a few people with motards, they tell me they are hard to beat in the twisty stuff.
Would they be quicker through the bends than a proper Street bike on tarmac though?
I bet they'd be a lot of fun, big singles are fun as it is, my last bike was a Fireblade, great bike but realistically you can't use it, break the open road speed limit in first gear with five more gears to go
As always, its the rider... but you are correct, a 105Kg Motard with red hot pilot, can make 600cc, 750cc or 1000cc Super Sports bike look a bit awkward in the twistys.
I know guys that have sold their Yamaha R1 to get a Motard... Sure, any straight and a proper road bike will eat them, but bring on the tight corners and a Motard will dive under them, around them, out brake them and get on the gas earlier...
The biggest thing about a Motard.. is the Smile Factor!!!! They are a pure Hoon machine....
You know where i live Godzilla, very good fun indeed.
Infact, it was around 20 years ago when i saw my first ever Motard, before the word Motard even existed.... It was born out of necessity of one of the weekend road bikers. He had a bad crash on his road racing bike and could no longer bend his knee tightly, they way you need to, to mount a sports bikes... So he fitted road wheels from a RD250 to a CR500 2-Stroke motorcross bike!!!! Some how he got it registered and i would see it parked where he was having his coffee... A CR500 with full race slicks. It was hilarious!!!
He then went to build a second CR500 Motard.... eventually the cops caught up with him and the CR500 was garaged.
He came back with an XR650 with 17" road wheels and tires... I used to watch him round up and pass road bikes one after the other.... and it looked so funny, as being mounted on a XR650 and being an already tall bloke, he towered in the air compared to the bent over road bike users.
He made a lot of people stop and take notice... it was all pointing and laughing, until he handed them a cornering lesson on his funny dirt bike with road tires. Many a road bike put to shame by his chook chaser!
That should give you an idea.... and if you want to see some real hoons, Google "Super Retards" on YouTube
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So whats a conversion kit worth?
Taking into consideration the cost to buy the bike and the kit where do you stand $ wise against a proper off the shelf road bike?
Yeah, it would be price inhibitive Godzilla.... Not sure on the price of the kit shown above.
But to make regular Dirt Bike into a Motard, it can be done from an off the shelf kit costing $2250 (Front and Read wheels, tires, larger front disk and brake mount extension, smaller rear sprocket and chain)... But with some looking around, you can do it for under $1000.
As another example, a couple of our local Aussie lads took brand new stock 450cc Enduro Bikes $12000 and bought a kit from OS to make them into a full race compliant Dakar Bike..... Total cost $25,000!!!
It pretty amazing how versatile a single cylinder 450cc dirt bike can be when you look at the above
Ok so whats being said is it will still cost the same as a road bike.
But quicker round the twisty bits....so therefore good value.
You could buy a Second Hand Motard for $5000 that would eat a $18000+ super sports bike in the twistys God!
So very good value, whats more, it would be LAMS approved and also cost next to nothing to fix if you dropped it.
You can also buy a proper Super Motard straight from a bike shop, Husky SMR511 2012 $8990 or $11500 on-road.
I just sold an Aprilia RVX550, which was a V-Twin Motard/Dirt Bike....
The kit shown in the first post, with full fairings, no idea what that would cost, but it looks $$$$ i'd guess $4500 easy... so that on top of the price of the bike is not good value.
But to find a set of road wheels that will slip on your road reg'd dirt bike, that can be as little as $500 S/Hand, and you will out corner a road bike until he can exceed 120Km/h.... And you'll have all the smiles
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I had a Motard chasing me down from Falls Creek a couple of months back. I was on my new Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade and it wipped my ass. But in my defence I's only had it for a couple of weeks so still getting used of it. If I was on my Ducati Monster 696 I would of had a better chance. It's also a great ride through the twisty stuff.
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I was wondering how they police those roads up there Leroy.
Would be nothing better than going for a blast up to Hotham or Falls... or across that gap road.
I remember when the I4DE was on in Bright years ago, lots of big lock up marks into corners and few knobies ripped clean off.... No wonder Motards took off.
Police the roads?? I can't go over the speed limit around the corners......just look at my tyres lol
It's great having all these great roads at my back door. Granya gap is another nice ride towards Walwa/Corryong.
............Leroy
PS Great Ocean road???? bah!
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I can tell you the only way to get a good mountain run is at 3-4am...dont ask me how i know that.
Just watch out for black ice....
ol' boy (29-04-13)
A Mate of mine transformed his KTM into a Cafe racer Motard.
For looks, sound and fun the Aprilia was great.... and it was a bit different and exotic.
But some serious engine failure issues, no real support here in Oz etc make it a nervous bike to own.
That is incredible!!! Is that Nigel these days!!! Wow!!!
I meet him at the 2006 NSW Powercruise, it was an event with 98% Muscle Cars....
I remember he came up with the rest of the Geelong lads in his drift car.
He is the nicest most friendly guy.... Then he took to the track after a day of Muscle Car action and left people drop jawed with his 140k smoking drift swaps down the main straight... missing pit wall by inches.
Then got out and laughed about it... A very modest man.
Someone must have been watching, as not long after that he got asked to go on Rove with his drift car.... which i heard he shortened by half a meter after contacting a wall with the camera man in the passenger seat
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Yep same Nigel. We work together. Like you said he is still an incredibly talented yet modest guy. Extremely friendly and has time for everybody.
He still loves his drift stuff. For the last 2 years he has been working on his custom Hilux drift ute. It's a full chassis car he built himself from scratch with Nissan running gear. It is nearly finished now and is a work of art. Checkout his website..it has his very well documented build up -
The Cafe racer was something he just did in his spare time as he was bored with it being a dirt bike 8-)
The higher center of gravity means they cant really compete with a real sportsbike in the hills but as a street bike with dirtbike maneuverability they would be pretty darn fun.
Just flicked on SBS Speedweek, and here was an up and coming series in Australia of these FX bikes (Dirt Bikes with a Road Bike kit)
Just watched a 450 single battle it out with a 250 single, amazingly similar track speed (as is often the case on a track)
15 year old rider dishing it out the older riders on the 450's!!!
FX Series and Formula Oz...
Some team has squeezed 95Hp out of one of these 450 singles!!! Thats insane, a stock 250 is around 33hp, a 450 high 40's.... so to get 95Hp is crazy!
This is a video i was trying to find earlier.....
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