Captiva auto transmission help
Doh! drained the auto transmission instead of the engine by mistake, the reason i did not pick it up was the fluid was black as the engine oil and the plugs are close together, now the problem, it is a sealed transmission and i am stuffed if i know where to refill it, it does not have a transmission dip stick and if it has a breather i cannot find it??? there must be an upper and lower plug but as i am on my back with little clearance cannot find it
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Feel around the transmissions flat points above where the sump bolts onto the tranny, it should be above the oil pan, i know the Fords are sealed yet there is a plug where the dipstick tube use to go in on older models, i usually removed this plug to refill when servicing these so called sealed transmissions.
HAHAHAHAH , bring mine round for a service hey , NOT !!!! what a classic...
hey how bout ya turn the car upside down and fill er up ;-)
not a good sign if the fluid is black ?
There is a plug located where the right side axle shaft enters the transmission it is above the pan. To check the fluid level of the transmission the engine must be at operating temp and the vehicle must be level. The must be running and the transmission in park, the plug is then removed and if transmission fluid starts dripping/leaking out it is full. If not transmission fluid should be added till fluid starts leaking from the plug hole, then just reinsert the plug and tighten. Generally this is done with the vehicle on a lift in order to access the plug, you might be able to do this if you have enough room to access the plug remember the vehicle must be level.
Yeah saw that one otlo, but am not sure it applies to the Captiva as under it mentioned another vehicle, think it was Subaru
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On a recent UK motoring show, they showed the transmission filler in middle of the underside of the housing in a recess, they used a tube type of spanner to remove it and as otlo says, if it drips, its full.
On this particular car, you refilled the unit until it dripped, replaced the plug, run the engine to operating Temp then remove plug and add until it drips then run it again. Although the mechanic said it wasnt necessary, he still tried to add more until it dripped.
This was for a 'Tiptronic' gearbox which I gather aint cheap to replace.
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well mate the title was 09 holden captiva , im not sure the word Subaru is in that phrase, but anw that's the way its done mate same as Godzilla said there is a plug on the casting above the pan.Originally Posted by allover
And to add to the tips, if the container you filling from does not have a tube, get yourself a cheap squeeze type hand pump for pumping petrol from supercheap or where ever.
Fill it to the hole until it starts running out, put the plug on by hand, start the car and put it on drive, netural and reverse a few times to get the air out, then pull the fill plug back off and put more in if needed.
This is done to ensure all the air is out, once the air is out the fluid level may drop and need refilling a little to bring it back up.
I usually do this a few times just to be safe.
otlo (02-12-13)
bit silly not having a dipstick in my opinion. there are places outside the gearbox where fluid could leak out , like hoses and oil coolers . if you cant top easily and quickly you run the risk of cooking the gearbox.
My thought as well.
Never stand under a shadow that's getting bigger
If it was mine I'd be dropping the sump, checking for metal in the sump, cleaning it, replace the filter and gasket with a service kit and putting some new oil in it
And then get rid of it.
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Most Ford trannies have a magnet on the bottom of the sump to collect any metal fragments, its quite normal to find some metal in a tranny sump.
If its empty the logical move would be to drop the sump, change the filter, clean any fragments out and reassemble with some fresh oil.
The ford BA/BF and FG models were sealed, yet i still drop the pans and put a filter kit through with freah oil to make them live a bit longer.
Filter kits for the Fords include a rubber sump gasket, a o ring to seal around the filter and the filter itself, they are around $20 to buy.
So much for being a sealed unit.....
Th only reason for no dipstick is for cheapness, just think how many $$$$'s they save by not having to have it made, the filler tube and inserting it.
The manufacturers not interested in making it easier for the owner to have it serviced in the future.
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Guys thanks very much for your replies, thought i had located the filler plug LHS in this case but tried to fill and there is auto fluid all over the road now with stone dust on it. Will try tomorrow but have crimped the end and hope the slow fill process will stop it bubbling up and out
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How are you putting the fluid in?
I use a petrol squeeze type hand pump, i leave it in level with the fill plug, not down into the transmission but just straight in and level with the hole and pump it from underneath going upwards.
allover checking his oil
Godzilla (02-12-13)
Just had another try, I removed the hex head plug atop of the LHS drive shaft with motor running and in park and oil came out, ok turned motor off , i crimped the a bit of alumimium tube to minimal opening put in to plastic pipe and funnel inserted poured from atop and fluid just came straight back out. I am now off to the mechanics as i think the oil is reasserted thru the drain plug under pressure until it reaches the top plug?
God, the access is not too bad and weirdo if the mess were only that small
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No, no , no , no.
Engine off, transmission cold when filling the oil.
Put the plug back on, run it through the gears while stationary.
Switch off engine, remove plug, check level.
Point being there is storm in there while the engine runs and you go through the gears, plug has to be in when doing the run through the gears to push the air out.
And as you mentioned, if your using the wrong hole, its not going to work correctly.
One other thing, did you see how much oil came out when you accidentally drained it?
The same amount must go in.....
Last edited by Godzilla; 03-12-13 at 09:46 AM.
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