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    Default Copyright forces closure of Internet Radio.

    I only caught part of a report that a recent ruling affecting the fees incurred by Broadcasters for playing Copyright music now means a fee will also apply to that material 'broadcast' on the Internet.
    The manager of 2BS/B-ROCK FM Bathurst said some stations have stopped broadcasting on the Internet or are about to and his station is considering their options.

    I would guess most will still retain their websites and use it as they do now but the option to hear the station will not be available on line.
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    Plenty of Internet Radio Stations that have No Affiliation to an FM/AM station, wonder how they will fair?
    In Oz, they had already "Blackband" AFL Live broadcasts via Internet Radio, sad really, sometimes it is your only option.

    So how does effect overseas Internet Radio gordon?

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    It wont affect any broadcasts from Overseas that I am aware of unless they too face Copyright restrictions in the Country of origin but some now have a policy that if your not 'Local', you cant hear their broadcasts or watch any TV programs from that country unless you can circumvent the ISP restriction.
    The only way I could see broadcasts from O/seas being affected would be if who ever controls the Copyright here could force Internet Providers to block the addresses the same as they do now with the various forms of Pornography so you cant access them from OZ.

    As far as I understand the Copyright restrictions, it is illegal to BROADCAST by ANY MEANS without being licensed to do so.

    This covers having a radio up loud (car as well) or a TV visible to others not part of the family but this is almost impossible to police except in rare circumstances.

    For years on the back of the Radio Loudspeaker was a sticker that gave details of this instruction but how the hell you were to read it inside the radio I have no idea.
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    You might want to give Tune In Radio a go gordon.
    Its only getting bigger, not smaller

    The idea of Internet Radio was the freedom and location was no boundary.
    Very handy if you cant get FM reception for you local station.
    Not to mention all those overseas that like to listen tho their home FM stations.

    I think this will be hard to police, and it flys in the face of Internet Radio moving forward as a medium.

    Will be interesting to see what happens.
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    The difference here is that iTunes will be using Apples catalog of Music which which means they (Apple) own or have permission of the Music's copyright holder to play them.
    What I commented on earlier was the 'Broadcaster' who already pay a fee to play material 'Over the Air' are being asked to pay a second fee to play that same material over the Internet.
    Now whether thats the same amount again or less I didnt hear but of course that would be an added cost to the Broadcaster which they dont want to pay so many were considering closing down the streaming service they now have.


    Many years ago a landmark Court case involved a well know singer (Patty Page) who sued Walt Disney Studios for Royalties for a very popular song she had recorded (How Much was that Doggie in the Widow) and the studios argued their agreement was for Records only, not for the later forms of recording such as Video, Cassette tape, CD's etc which didnt exist when the recording was made.
    The Judge ruled that she was entitled to royalties from ANY means of recording/storage/playback because the original contract would have included those means had they had been known about at the time which is why you see the admonition that Copyright exists on known and future forms of both recording/storing and playing back.
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    Thanks Gordon,
    That explains why I can't listen to Riverland radio 5RM anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinSV View Post
    Thanks Gordon,
    That explains why I can't listen to Riverland radio 5RM anymore.

    It is effecting the Regional Local Radio Stations here ...... with the same message as posted above, & local MP contact info to complain about it ......

    The major Sydney Radio Stations are still broadcasting on the internet ...... they must have paid the asking price ......
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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinSV View Post
    Thanks Gordon,
    That explains why I can't listen to Riverland radio 5RM anymore.

    The Same is happening here too
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    What about sites like YouTube ....... full of Music Videos & other stuff ..... will they take on the parent company ...... Google
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    Basicaly as far as I understand the Copyright laws, yes if those persons have used video/music/images OWNED by another person/company.

    Say I was to write the greatest show ever and you upload my show or any part of it onto Youtube and I find out you have..............first would be to get Youtube to remove it once I proved ownership and then depending on if where you live is a signatory to the Copyright Acts, I would as the yanks say, SUE yer ASS !!!!!!!!!!!

    But in reality, is it worth sueing someone like yourself as most likely the cost and time involved doing so would far outweigh what ever few pennies I could wring out of you.
    Most times where a business infinges on Copyright, a simple threat of legal action is enough to stop it cold along with any publicity regarding a company being sued which isnt good for business can do wonders too.
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    There are so many options these days for streaming music, that I would hardly be worried. Spotify is perfectly legal and free, and will work on portable devices now too. You can build playlists on there or listen to other people's playlists, and it will be very much like the radio, with the occasional ads here and there. There are also other services such as Rdio and Pandora that are worth looking into as well. Plus some of these streaming radio stations do in fact have licenses, and their streaming broadcast is just in addition to their traditional broadcasts.

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