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    Default Windows OS or Mac OS?

    I have been using Mac OS for as long as I can remember. I used to be a Windows user, who has used Windows ME, XP, Vistas, 7, and 8. Windows 7 is probably one of the best Windows operating systems I have ever used. I prefer Windows OS because there are a lot of software that are supported by Windows, which most of the software that I use for on the Windows computer doesn't work on Mac computer. I have just recently switched back to Windows OS because of Windows 7, which is much easier to navigate and it's a much stable Windows OS. What about you? Do you prefer Windows OS or Mac OS?



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    Mac OS is only intended to run on Apple hardware configurations. So Apple is the guarantee that your system works perfectly and finally thus unexpected hardware incompatibilties not arise.

    Windows systems are available on various kinds of hardware, however, and here is the problem of a Windows computer: many hardware combinations are not fully reliable or even incompatible and thus cause annoying problems, error messages and crashes.

    The question
    Do you prefer Windows OS or Mac OS?
    is wrong asked, you'ld have asked
    Do you prefer (generic) IBM PCs or Apple PCs?
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    they are getting very similar to each other I run a 15" mac with Windows bootcamp so I can run all the "non" mac available software on Win7

    I also play with backtrack and kali on a toshiba

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    Quote Originally Posted by freakee1 View Post
    they are getting very similar to each other I run a 15" mac with Windows bootcamp so I can run all the "non" mac available software on Win7

    I also play with backtrack and kali on a toshiba

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    And reverse, you can emulate Mac OS on Windows PC (Intel/AMD) with

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwoegerbauer View Post
    And reverse, you can emulate Mac OS on Windows PC (Intel/AMD) with

    Question: Why would you want to? I've been a PC man all my 'puting life (since days of DOS) but have worked on MACs. At one stage I was working in an IBM dealership selling PCs but the computer on my desk was a MAC (LCII IIRC).(We were owned by an Apple Centre.) Back then, the Mac had the advantage of great graphics, and great sound. Their downside was, of course, the proprietary system, which is, also, its major benefit. The PC has caught up and there is now little need to cross over to Apple although there are still some specialist proprietary programs that will only run on the "bit of fruit" but these are hardly the realm of "Joe Average" and they are like the programs that won't support W8 and won't run on it no matter how hard you try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lsemmens View Post
    Question: Why would you want to?
    Also cannot see an important reason to do so, this because probably I am a 'Joe Average" too ...

    We remember, in 2001, Apple dumped Mac OS — the original Mac operating system, which had grown outdated and creaky — and replaced it with the state-of-the-art OS X. If the company hadn’t been willing to do that, it’s unlikely that Macs would exist today. Two other similar shifts — the move from Motorola 680×0 processors (32-bit) to PowerPC chips, and then the move from PowerPC chips to Intel ones — were equally daring. Strangely, Apple’s fearlessness about such transitions, successful though they’ve been, is one thing about the company that few of its rivals ever imitate.



    Due to the fact that Macs currently are based on Intel CPUs, the community of Apple freaks now is allowed to run Windows applications on a Mac. That this became a necessity is proved by offering the BOOT CAMP which allows to install Windows XP (Home or Professional SP 2), Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8 (both their 32-bit and 64-bit version ? I don't know this) as secondary OS. The disadvantage hereby is you every time have to re-boot the Mac to select which OS you want to run.


    My resume: Apple have learned that Mac owners also want to run software developped for the Windows OS.
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    I have been considering getting a Mac for a while now. The operating system seems to be more user friendly; and from what I understand, the computers are more durable. Less internet viruses exist for the Mac too. My only problem is, they are more expensive; for the same processing power, than a PC. This is true in the US at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Ennis View Post
    Less internet viruses exist for the Mac too.
    Owners of an IBM PC simply should upgrade to Windows 8:

    Windows 8 comes with a long list of security improvements that’s very likely to put an end to a widespread legend claiming that Windows is a very unsafe operating system.

    Windows 8’s security layers were brought in the spotlight at the Black Hat and DEF CON security conferences in Las Vegas, with the conclusion being a rather positive one: the new Windows 8 is a very secure working environment.

    Sung-ting Tsai of Trend Micro tried to break into Windows 8, but in the end admitted that only vulnerable third-party apps could allow hackers to infiltrate the system.

    Metro apps are based on a restricted sandbox, while Microsoft Office and Internet Explorer, two of the Microsoft products that are very likely to be installed on Windows 8 workstations, cannot be exploited without the user noticing it.

    Summary:
    In the end, it proved that Windows 8 is indeed a very safe operating system and with more and more viruses aimed at OS X computers, it has all the chances to keep you on the safe side no matter what.

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    Back to the OP's question.

    Mac OS X is just another Unix-like distro with a different desktop that uses dmg instead of deb or rpm.
    As a Linux user I must prefer OS X to Windows and I can get rid of the infamous Apple limitations simply by installing dmg versions of the major open source applications that come with most Linux distros, like VLC and Firefox.
    The fact that the OS X image files are available for a small fee, have no nuisance keys and authentication procedures makes it more open than Windows too.

    My major dislike is 'Finder'. It makes Windows Explorer look like a masterpiece, although I don't like it either. I have not found the MAC version of a truly powerful file manager tool like Krusader or even Totalcommander, yet.
    Edit: Found Double Commander for Mac, does the job.

    One reason why I might switch from my usual Linux/Windows combo to OS X, is that I scored on Ebay a faulty(for parts) MacBook Pro for $60 and fixed it.
    I felt the strange urge to do that after I watched “Jobs”, the film.

    I now have a rather neat “Linux” system with the cool name “Mountain Lion” that runs most of my favourite Linux apps and some serious Music and Video production software, where had to resort to Windows up to now.

    Parallels works pretty good too, better than Virtual Box that didn't let me install WIN7/8 on any of my machines despite working natively.
    It even runs Android parallel, LOL.

    I consider it is safe to go on line with OS X unlike Windows, which I only use off line, despite your raves about Windows 8 Herr Woergerbauer.

    Any machine that has to be loaded with all kinds of security software to perform safely on the net will have to be slower than the same machine that does not need that.
    Windows (after XP) is resource hungry, more than a Unix system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Ennis View Post
    I have been considering getting a Mac for a while now. The operating system seems to be more user friendly; and from what I understand, the computers are more durable. Less internet viruses exist for the Mac too. My only problem is, they are more expensive; for the same processing power, than a PC. This is true in the US at least.
    Have you thought about looking on the second hand market.
    Even a bit older can be still fairly powerful.
    I agree with user friendly, and limitations can be easily removed as I mentioned above.
    As for durable, I might question that.
    It is just another Intel laptop with some cool design features I admit, but same flaws.
    The major one being heat, the death of all laptops.
    Never use a laptop on your lap!(for a longer period of time). On a bed/blanket, elevate it with books, spray with "air duster" in the vents occasionally.
    Specifically for MacBooks/Pro install and run smcFanControl or similar to keep those fans spinning well. Apple boasts about how quiet their MacBooks are but that is their major cause of premature logic board death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Ennis View Post
    I have been considering getting a Mac for a while now. The operating system seems to be more user friendly; and from what I understand, the computers are more durable. Less internet viruses exist for the Mac too. My only problem is, they are more expensive; for the same processing power, than a PC. This is true in the US at least.
    It is possible to install Mac OS X on non-Mac hardware, i.e. your common vanilla-flavoured P.C.

    I have done this myself and have OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) running on an HP DC7600 SFF, OS X 10.7 Lion and OS X 10.8 (Mountain Lion) on a Dell Optiplex 755 SFF (small form factor) with full functionality. I picked up each computer at auction for less than $50.00 each.

    There are a number of forums where you can learn about this very inexpensive way to get yourself up-and-running with OS X.

    A good way to start is with an Hackintosh ....

    The CustoMac .... (Read the Forum and Guides sections).



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    Way to go Tristan, hackintosh are not difficult to set up and run just like apple hardware. Have been using various iterations for a number of years now. BTW the latest version of Mac OSX called Mavericks is available for FREE from the App Store. Kind of makes me wonder why you would part with considerable cash for win 8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tristen View Post
    It is possible to install Mac OS X on non-Mac hardware, i.e. your common vanilla-flavoured P.C.

    I have done this myself and have OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) running on an HP DC7600 SFF, OS X 10.7 Lion and OS X 10.8 (Mountain Lion) on a Dell Optiplex 755 SFF (small form factor) with full functionality.



    os x 10.8 mountain lion iso untouched (a vmware image, you can use in virtual box, too)

    The links (700 MB .RAR chunks) as follow are working (verified this today):








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    Been spending my computer time in the last week exclusively with that mountain lion and I love it.
    It are the third party apps that make OS X so interesting and Parallels really glues all the platforms together with amazing transparency. I am sometimes not even aware if I am on Windows, Kubuntu or native OS X anymore when I run certain applications while my home folder appears magically on all three worlds.
    ...and logic Pro X (not available under Windows) is so awesome, it has motivated me to get into some own music production again, probably after 10 years of abstinence.

    I hated Apple because of their restrictions and overpricing and was therefore unfortunately ignorant of the hidden possibilities of OS X.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwoegerbauer View Post



    os x 10.8 mountain lion iso untouched (a vmware image, you can use in virtual box, too)

    The links (700 MB .RAR chunks) as follow are working (verified this today):








    Files are password protected.
    Could you please supply the password as you said this was working?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nomeat View Post
    Files are password protected.
    Could you please supply the password as you said this was working?
    I simply forgot to supply this. Now can not serve with it, because completly deleted OX X 10.8. Sorry for this.

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