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    Hello all,

    I have recently moved into a place that has a foxtel dish bolted to the back wall of the house (low enough that i bang my head on it when i mow)

    I just can not afford to get Foxtel installed and considered the multiroom sharing idea and may still do this.

    But what interests me more, and i have been doing some research, is what i believe to be blind scanning.

    I'm really only into this for sport and given V8 Supercars season is about to begin if i can somehow pick up the live feed commercial free i would be extremely happy.

    If someone could please get me started with a list of equipment i would need that would be appreciated.

    Like i said it appears that the previous tenants had foxtel/austar installed and the dish and cabling remains.

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    'Feeds' appear on various satellites and transponders, usually on an irregular basis, so finding them involves using a satellite receiver which can scan an entire satellite without having to enter specific transponder/frequency details, hence the term 'blind' scan.

    To do this, you will obviously need a receiver capable of performing the 'blindscan' function.

    Many feeds are not encrypted and use standard MPEG4 and to a lesser degree, MPEG2 encoding, but some feeds are also sent using encryption, or at a higher 'broadcast' video encoding standard (eg:4.2.2) for which you would be required to have a compatible receiver/decoder/key/smartcard.

    As most 'feeds' are on satellites different to the Austar/Foxtel sats of D3/C1, the dish would currently be pointed at, you would need to realign the dish to the desired satellite, before you can scan it.

    Many of the Australian feeds appear on Optus sats D1 and D2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beer4life View Post
    G'Day Cobber,
    Pull up a stool and make yourself to home.

    This is the Introduction Forum, you need to go to the Satellite Forum.

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    Thanks mate!

    I would but I'm so newb i would hate to get shouted down

    Doing more and more research now and learning as i go

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtv View Post
    'Feeds' appear on various satellites and transponders, usually on an irregular basis, so finding them involves using a satellite receiver which can scan an entire satellite without having to enter specific transponder/frequency details, hence the term 'blind' scan.

    To do this, you will obviously need a receiver capable of performing the 'blindscan' function.

    Many feeds are not encrypted and use standard MPEG4 and to a lesser degree, MPEG2 encoding, but some feeds are also sent using encryption, or at a higher 'broadcast' video encoding standard (eg:4.2.2) for which you would be required to have a compatible receiver/decoder/key/smartcard.

    As most 'feeds' are on satellites different to the Austar/Foxtel sats of D3/C1, the dish would currently be pointed at, you would need to realign the dish to the desired satellite, before you can scan it.

    Many of the Australian feeds appear on Optus sats D1 and D2.
    Thanks mtv,

    Any suggestions on equipment a beginner such as myself should be looking at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by db73 View Post
    Hello all,
    I just can not afford to get Foxtel installed and considered the multiroom sharing idea and may still do this.
    I hate to put a damper on your thoughts but if all you have is a dish and are looking to buy the equipment needed to get into this hobby then ultimately you will find it cheaper just to pay for Foxtel, especially if you opt for the multiroom option and end up sharing the cost with either friends or family.
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    Another thing no one has mentioned is that a dish is very directional and with rare exceptions like C1 & D3 who share the same location in space, you can only 'see' one Satellite at a time and it needs to be made moveable to 'see' others.

    The best and simplest analogy I can think of is the 'Batman' signal where a searchlight projects the image onto a cloud.

    As seymour says 'it aint cheap, Baby'.

    You have to ask yourself is it worth spending at least $150 on a STB for a few channels (maybe 6) and theres no guarantee they will remain there or not go encrypted.
    Then you just keep spending more on rotators etc if you want to go searching for others.
    If your a 'Traveler' or plan to be, you could connect a STB to the and use the VAST service but the multiroom option may be your best option but before doing so, check you have TWO cables from the LNB and there is a dual connection on the wall plate where they end.
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    Thanks all

    Looking less and less likely now

    Just the thought of intercepting of V8 Supercar feed live and in HD was very appealing to me. Oh well

    Definitely two cables and a dual connection on the wall plates

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    Quote Originally Posted by db73 View Post
    Thanks all

    Looking less and less likely now

    Just the thought of intercepting of V8 Supercar feed live and in HD was very appealing to me. Oh well

    Definitely two cables and a dual connection on the wall plates
    Consider a wanted add in our Buy Sell Trade forum for a second hand receiver that does blind scan.

    Sat is at a bit of a low point at the moment and there should be someone who wants to unload a cheap second hand receiver that does blind scan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin View Post
    Consider a wanted add in our Buy Sell Trade forum for a second hand receiver that does blind scan.

    Sat is at a bit of a low point at the moment and there should be someone who wants to unload a cheap second hand receiver that does blind scan.
    Thank you. Will do

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    a cheap blindscan box would be something like the Openbox S9 for example

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    To align the dish, it's best and easiest to use a satellite finder/meter.

    Here's an example of a good, cheap unit.



    Also, considering the dish is wall mounted, you would need to make certain there is sufficient wall clearance for the dish to rotate to point at other satellites.

    If it's a north/north-east facing wall it should be OK but you'd need to be sure, otherwise you could be buying equipment for nothing.

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    And mount it so you wont bump your head on it as you mow the grass.

    The installer must have been either very tall or only had a short ladder to place it like that.

    I dont think there is any regulation or Industry Standard but to avoid any accidental contact, it should be no less than 2.5 to 3 metres above the ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gordon_s1942 View Post
    And mount it so you wont bump your head on it as you mow the grass.

    The installer must have been either very tall or only had a short ladder to place it like that.

    I dont think there is any regulation or Industry Standard but to avoid any accidental contact, it should be no less than 2.5 to 3 metres above the ground.
    It annoys the crap out of me. I have never seen a dish mounted so low.

    It is facing NNE so maybe that's ok.

    Still deciding what to do. Had a good read over at vetrun about the V8 Supercar feed and looks like it will be encrypted now.

    Why does everything have to be so hard...

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