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    even though dave hates me
    heres a copy of a hdd program

    but his right, i cant even work out how to clone a drive
    never works for me
    i just take the long road & reinstall, least its idiot proof
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philquad View Post
    heres a copy of a hdd program
    Basically you don't need a third-party product as Paragon's Hard Disk Manager you linked to to clone a HDD, because Windows already comes with this feature.
    Since Windows Vista, so also in Windows 7 and Windows 8, with Windows's inbuilt tool you can create from computer's HDD an image, which can be recovered using the Setup CD / DVD on a different disk.

    EDIT:

    Why run Sysprep /generalize before you start computer cloning? In order that every cloned computer is different.

    Sysprep removes all computer-related settings, such as computer name, user profile, security identifier. After running Sysprep a computer then can be cloned without further ADO: the first time started the cloned computer undergoes then a kind of mini-setup in which the computer name, user profiles, security identifier,... get rewritten.

    EDIT 2:

    Not sure whether Paragons's Hard Disk Manager 2008 (fo-hdm8.exe) can handle GPT-Partitions as this is the case with Paragons's Hard Disk Manager 2014.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwoegerbauer View Post
    Basically you don't need a third-party product as Paragon's Hard Disk Manager you linked to to clone a HDD, because Windows already comes with this feature.
    Since Windows Vista, so also in Windows 7 and Windows 8, with Windows's inbuilt tool you can create from computer's HDD an image, which can be recovered using the Setup CD / DVD on a different disk.
    While I agree with you on W7 & 8; that the system Repair Disc + a new full system image will give you a good cloned drive, the UI is not as user friendly as some non-Microsoft software.
    As for Vista, maybe professional version has the complete system backup program, however my Vista laptop doesn't, "Windows Complete PC Backup and Restore is not included with Windows Vista Home Basic or Windows Vista Home Premium."- from Windows Vista Help.

    That's why it is really appreciated that some software vendors offer a free home version of their cloning/disc management software as they realise most home users will only use it once then recommend to friend who may recommend it to a professional who will purchase it. Good PR in my book.

    Quote Originally Posted by jwoegerbauer View Post
    Why run Sysprep /generalize before you start computer cloning? In order that every cloned computer is different.

    Sysprep removes all computer-related settings, such as computer name, user profile, security identifier. After running Sysprep a computer then can be cloned without further ADO: the first time started the cloned computer undergoes then a kind of mini-setup in which the computer name, user profiles, security identifier,... get rewritten.
    For the purpose of this thread; most people are looking to have an identical cloned image onto a new, possibly larger or faster(SSD) drive. The reason being that some software licenses require re-registration &/or payment for loading on another HDD.
    A clone using Sysprep in this fashion would cause some people a lot of hassle for the software they already have licenses for.
    Proper Cloning usually avoids this by having all the INI files & Registry entries for registration up to date.
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    OK, I've cloned my work drive on to the smaller SSD, and it was piece of urine.
    I bought a Samsung and downloaded the SAmsung Data Migration software, 40 minutes later, I had a clone, disconnected old drive, put new drive in same spot with the same cords.
    Hey presto, turned it on and it' flies,

    Lesson learnt, buy Samsung SSDs

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    so by the time you did all this you could have
    flown me down to sa, buy me a six pack, i would have clean installed on your you beaut ssd drive
    copied all your shit back & flown home for dinner lol

    did you try formatting your old ssd to see if it still works?
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    The other one is farked, it just gives read/write errors galore, won't let me assign a letter to it, one guy said the controller could be farked.

    This new one which is at work was from a clean install.

    I have a new question.

    I did a fresh install, and it now comes up on booting , do you want to iboot in to vista or an older version. (the option to fark off old, isn't there)
    I have removed old installation of windows via disk cleanup, and have looked into boot manager and only vista is listed, but it still gives me the choice.
    Suggestions please? When I die I'm going to be an expert in this shit.

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    wat os is it?
    7, did you try msconfig/boot options, see what it says there
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    it's vista, and I tried msconfig / boot and it only comes up with the vista

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    i "think" you can edit it here like xp? cant remember now, be careful though
    how come you have a $5000 ssd drive & vista?

    1. Open System by clicking the Start button , clicking Control Panel,
    clicking System and Maintenance, and then clicking System.

    2. In the left pane, click Advanced system settings. If you
    are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the
    password or provide confirmation.

    3. Click the Advanced tab, and then, under Startup and
    Recovery, click Settings.

    4. Under System startup, choose a default operating system and
    the amount of time to display the list of operating systems, and then click
    OK.
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    Cheers Phil, ive changed it to 5 seconds, would prefer it just wasn't there

    It wasn't $5000 its only a 120gb drive cost me $100.

    Fark they're quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hughdman View Post
    OK, I've cloned my work drive on to the smaller SSD, and it was piece of urine.
    I bought a Samsung and downloaded the SAmsung Data Migration software, 40 minutes later, I had a clone, disconnected old drive, put new drive in same spot with the same cords.
    Hey presto, turned it on and it' flies,

    Lesson learnt, buy Samsung SSDs
    I bought a 120 GB Samsung SSD aswell about a week ago but couldn't clone my existing 1TB over
    obviously too big but even just trying to copy the user folders it was still way too large to fit on there
    probably should have bought a bigger one
    but I'm so tight, I dropped a 20 cent piece the other day, bent over to pick it up and it hit me in the back of my neck

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    Quote Originally Posted by weirdo View Post
    I bought a 120 GB Samsung SSD aswell about a week ago but couldn't clone my existing 1TB over
    obviously too big but even just trying to copy the user folders it was still way too large to fit on there
    probably should have bought a bigger one
    Yes, you should have bought the Samsung SSD 840 EVO mSATA 1 TB

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwoegerbauer View Post
    Yes, you should have bought the Samsung SSD 840 EVO mSATA 1 TB
    yeah but that would have been another 2945 20 cent pieces resulting in a very sore neck

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    Quote Originally Posted by weirdo View Post
    I bought a 120 GB Samsung SSD aswell about a week ago but couldn't clone my existing 1TB over
    obviously too big but even just trying to copy the user folders it was still way too large to fit on there
    probably should have bought a bigger one
    but I'm so tight, I dropped a 20 cent piece the other day, bent over to pick it up and it hit me in the back of my neck
    I get by fine with a 120gb SSD, I have the OS (Windows 7x64) and all programs on the SSD, except for games (Steam folder is 698 GB). Games are installed on a 2TB WD black drive, which also serves as download/short term storage.



    To trim Windows install size down, disable hibernation, set paging file manually (I use 2gb, with 16gb of ram), delete any service pack or Windows update file backups (once you know they work of course).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave001 View Post
    To trim Windows install size down, disable hibernation, set paging file manually (I use 2gb, with 16gb of ram), delete any service pack or Windows update file backups (once you know they work of course).
    Great step-by-step instructions; not often seen here. Austech needs more competent guys like you!


    BTW:

    If it's a Windows 7/8.x computer then you can consider to additionally use RT7Lite to further shrink down your existing Windows installation before cloning. Both 32-bit and 64-bit version of RT7Lite exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philquad View Post

    BTW

    if you disable system restore, that saves about 10% on your hdd also
    If you know your Windows is working well, then it's indeed a good idea to delete existing System Restore Points before cloning a "system protected" HDD.

    But, personally don't recommend to disable this feature in general, because this feature can be a lifesaver!

    The System Restore feature is quite handy if you’ve discovered that Windows isn’t working the way it should be after you recently installed updates or new programs. Sometimes programs can accidentally change settings that they shouldn’t have, so System Restore will allow you to restore these settings and get your computer running properly again.

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    is was a joke joey, i was "pulling your leg" so to speak
    yes, the restore function since win 7 is great
    finally something we agree on
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