Reply With QuoteThey have now over run a Syrian Government air base and are executing captured troops. With everything they over run , they get new spoils.
Below is an Isis tank at the airbase
No. They don't care even about killing other Muslims. Most of the people being killed in Syria and Iraq now are Muslims. It is Sunni v. Shia.Originally Posted by Downunder35m
They have now over run a Syrian Government air base and are executing captured troops. With everything they over run , they get new spoils.
Below is an Isis tank at the airbase
A nuke would certainly do that and eradicate them at the same time.ISIS need to be irradiated
For most of my life, I lived a delusion
These guys are nothing more than a gang of thugs doing what unfettered thugs do, using religion as an excuse....they produce nothing of value except misery. They have an international following of the gullible and the violent.
But it will take united action to fix it....the UN MUST agree on a strategy that includes Arab nations. Then be swift and decisive, which we find difficult to do.
The fact that there's a highway to hell and a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic flow.
DB44 (29-08-14)
is an excellent piece and we should perhaps listen to this radio host put the caller and Islam into its true perspective.
Sorry this is a Facebook link - for those that dislike Facebook
In hindsight I should have posted my Facebook status as: "I've blown the head gasket on my 1997 XR3i" rather than "I've just buggered a 14 year old escort".
The police still haven't seen the funny side, my lap top's been confiscated and the wife has gone off to her mum's.
lsemmens (29-08-14)
This can clearly be seen in the picture 2 posts above. Bastards.
Have a nice day
This is great, what's going to happen when the Kurds run?
IS is going to be using weapons supplied by us.
Tiny (31-08-14)
You dont really think we would have any weapons do you mate ?This is great, what's going to happen when the Kurds run?
IS is going to be using weapons supplied by us.
I might add that the Kurds don't have a reputation for running, but they do for fighting. I don't know enough about them otherwise. Perhaps some other members do and can provide more information. And in any case, where would they run to? It is no accident that many of the displaced people fled to Kurdish controlled territory, where the Kurds faced the problem of weeding-out would be infiltrators. These would be infiltrators were I believe turned away rather than executed.
In fact, if the West strongly backs the Kurds this may solve a good part of the problem not for us but with us.
From Al Jazeera
In Amerli, thousands of Shia Turkmen have been cut off from food and water for nearly two months besieged by Islamic State fighters. Residents, who are in danger because of their faith and their resistance to the armed group, have vowed to kill themselves rather than risk capture by the group.
Kirby said the aid came at the request of the Iraqi government and that the US military conducted the raids to support the aid delivery, the AP news agency reported.
He added that aircraft from Australia, France and the UK had joined the US in the aid drop.
One of the problems for intervention as I see it is that there will be NO prisoners. They have made that obvious. Any Aussies/Americans/Coalition of the Whatever caught will be tortured and executed. These people should be swatted from existence. A good case for a neutron device in my opinion.....
The fact that there's a highway to hell and a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic flow.
God I am sick of the garbage media we now have. Look at this headline :
'THEY HATE US': ABBOTT SENDS ARTILLERY TO IRAQ
Ummm.....what artillery ?
Decision not up for debate: Committing troops exclusively up to executive government!
Was just reading this article by Andrew Nikolic & I'm inclined to agree with him, he makes some very valid points.Source;
Decision not up for debate: Committing troops exclusively up to executive government
By ANDREW NIKOLIC (as published in The Examiner 3 September 2014).
MUCH has been said in recent days about the need for Parliament to debate and decide whether to deploy Australian military forces in support of international humanitarian relief operations in Iraq and Syria.
There is nothing in the Constitution or Defence Legislation that requires the executive to first engage in debate, or get a vote through parliament, before committing military forces.
This decision is a prerogative of executive government, which in turn is answerable to the parliament. While it is customary to consult with the opposition, the decision is clearly a matter for the Prime Minister and the cabinet.
The Parliament, of course, is free to debate these matters and the Prime Minister or Defence Minister regularly provide updates on the use of our troops – both of these things are entirely consistent with accepted practice.
In 2008 the Greens Party tried to introduce legislation that removed the exclusive power of government to deploy troops. A Senate Committee at the time concluded that proposal was ‘not a credible piece of legislation’. [i]
Consider, for example, at the time of the Second Gulf War, Bob Hawke said on the ABC AM Radio Program that ‘…of course (it) is appropriate for the executive to make a decision…’. [ii]
Hawke was right anda case for executive decision – and action – by the government of the day, can be made quite sensibly and reasonably on four equally clear grounds.
The first relates to the presence of a clear and dangerous threat. The second relates to the government’s freedom of action to respond ina timely fashion. The third concerns the trust, faith and common sense of the Australian people. And, the fourth relates to longstanding parliamentary convention.
Let us unpack these, particularly the first three.
First, the threat from ISIL. The danger is clear, present and pressing – afact underscored by the utter evil of its avowed intention. ISIL is not just another terrorist movement or force. Rather, it is an ‘‘aggregated terrorist corporation’’ looking to cement and growa fundamentalist terrorist home or state.
The world has not seen or faced down such a challenge in our lifetime.
ISIL isa cancer on all religions and faiths, and something which, if possible, must be excised completely from the Middle East. The ISIL clarion call to aggrieved young hot-heads will bea serious security threat for western democracies for the next decade. No nation will be immune.
Second, the imminence of this threat. This threat is close and imminent, and is increasing exponentially. Its proximity includes the possibility of ‘‘blooded’’ ISIL patriots returning to their countries of origin to, in effect, decentralise the mayhem.
It is arguable that ISIL’s grip on some parts of the Middle East, has now exceeded the point of critical mass where its destruction was possible. Now perhaps the West must accept and attempt secondary and subordinate dual objectives – humanitarian relief and containment.
Finally, to the matter of the trust, faith and commonsense of the wider electorate. The wider Australian community has faith in the nature and maturity of our democracy and its institutional structures. Theirs, too, is an increasingly nuanced appreciation of international affairs.
The wider Australian electorate understands the need for occasioned and even protracted parliamentary debate. Equally, their broad fund of common sense and innate human decency, tells them when such debate is unwarranted, needless, or even dangerous, to the livelihood and wellbeing of others.
They realise and appreciate that the ISIL abomination unfolding before the world does not warrant further and undue talk by politicians. They know and accept that what is required is leadership and collective international intervention in the name of humanity.
That such a stance also happens to fit with longstanding Australian parliamentary convention, just happens to make the acceptance of such a course all the more reasonable, necessary and yes, easy. But it is action now which will save lives – not more talk.
Recent events reinforce that ISIL is a growing malevolent wellspring of barbarism, perhaps not seen since the middle ages, and which must be confronted by the combined efforts of western liberal civilised society.
This must be done now – not later.
(Andrew Nikolic is the federal member for Bass and a member of the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security. He is a former senior Australian Army officer with service in Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as a former First Assistant Secretary in the Defence Department.)
Cheers, Tiny
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lsemmens (04-09-14)
This is how the Middle East conflict was explained to me by an American.
In case you are you confused by what is going on in the Middle East:
Let me explain the Middle East and ISIS to you - it's simple really.
We support the Iraqi government in the fight against ISIS.
We do not like ISIS but ISIS is supported by Saudi Arabia whom we do like.
We do not like Iran, but Iran supports Iraq in its fight against ISIS.
We do not like Assad in Syria and we support the fight against him - but ISIS is also fighting against him.
So some of our friends support our enemies; some of our enemies support our friends; some enemies are now our friends; and some of our enemies are fighting against our other enemies, who we want to lose, but we do not want some enemies who are fighting other enemies to win.
If the people we want to defeat are defeated, they could be replaced by people we like even less.
And this was all started by us invading a country to drive out terrorists who were not actually there until we went in to drive them out.
See! It's quite simple really.
Australian are using US Tanks over there, thats been the word for a while now (at least a month or more)
Info straight from Armoured Core
Last edited by ol' boy; 04-09-14 at 09:33 PM.
as i said we have no weaponry, we got 59 tanks, what a joke.
Didn't we agree and sign a contract to buy US tanks? Specifically the Abrahms?
The fact that there's a highway to hell and a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic flow.
Who knows, but the boys in Darwin have been told they driving US Abrahms over there.
Mango, maybe this is why we have stuff all in the way of hardware, cos we suck Americas cock every time they ask, because we need them.... apparently.
US troops have already been over here for month or more training with our boys.
Last edited by ol' boy; 05-09-14 at 12:55 PM.
Wow...how word gets around...we've had them for ages....sigh!
The fact that there's a highway to hell and a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic flow.
Yes we have had them for ages, but we are using the Americans over there.
According to what the Armoured Core have been informed anyway. Lets see what happens first, but they are currently being trained and briefed on the above.
Last edited by ol' boy; 05-09-14 at 01:14 PM.
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