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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanboy View Post
    Correct.
    What's correct? Sometimes I think you just reply for the sake of replying because once again you haven't read what i posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyPatrol View Post
    What's correct? Sometimes I think you just reply for the sake of replying because once again you haven't read what i posted.

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    Classic, read your own question, i answered it. Maybe a Yes would have been more simple.
    For one, half way through your post, you answered your own question, two, i answered the last question.
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    "who has used this service? Just looking at joining up and you have to hand ovver your credit card details. How does one pay for trips?
    I got a quote and they give you 2 prices. Can you select which service you want to use?"

    who has used this service? - correct - is this the right answer?
    oh wait it's Just looking at joining up and you have to hand ovver your credit card details. - correct - or maybe this is correct
    I got a quote and they give you 2 prices. Can you select which service you want to use? - correct - or no it's this one that is correct
    How does one pay for trips? - correct -


    Yeh a classic all right, you answered the post well.

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    Maybe its not for you then

    When you sign up, its all explained to you.
    Otherwise, this site seems to answer all your questions:

    Or maybe this is easier

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    'When you sign up, its all explained to you.'

    Unlike you I'm not happy to pass over my credit card details so readily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godzilla View Post
    9 years or newer actually.....

    The guy over the road from me has Taxi style (VHB?) plates and does limo (just a late model statesman) work.

    He jumped onto Uber to fill in extra work between jobs.
    I'd imagine for him it would be quite legal, have no issues with insurance etc, for guys like this would be a great way to earn something extra when he might otherwise be idle and not making money

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    This explians the Uber process



    You'll find some info about Uber in Australia in the middle of this show


    (Skip to 10min)

    and some more here

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    Quote Originally Posted by jok11n View Post
    I'd imagine for him it would be quite legal, have no issues with insurance etc, for guys like this would be a great way to earn something extra when he might otherwise be idle and not making money
    You tick a box when you sign up now if you are an existing Taxi Service.
    I'm not sure if this then allows to be an Uber Black driver, or if you are still UberX

    It's not just Uber either, there are a lot of similar services just waiting in the wings or trying to get noticed.
    Lyft and Moovit are 2 such services.
    If Uber pushes into the Australian Market and gets laws changed, then you can expect a swag of these "Ride Sharing" type solutions to hit the market.

    You only have to look at the explosion in Airport Parking Services that offer shuttle buses to see whats going to happen.

    In KL last year, every young person used MyTeksi (its an App), it was a good way of getting around the very dodgy local Taxi system where they don't want to use the Meter.
    Its been used there for several years now. They also have Uber now too.
    The Local Taxi system in KL is such a scam, everyone is in for a cut, with hidden prices everywhere. A system like Uber at least cleans that up.
    This is not such an issue in Oz, as we have professional Taxi's.

    Melbourne Airport to the City



    KLIA to Sentral



    Interesting Article on Airport pick ups


    Look out for all the other Ride Sharing Services popping up, Richard Branson has tipped $15Million into "Sidecar".

    Uber Black
    UberX
    Lyft
    Sidecar
    BlaBlaCar (non-profit)

    Looks like the next thing to sweep the world.
    So back to the topic, i guess with so much competition, being a driver will not be very lucrative.

    I can see a better solution, is a service where by you log your route (a place you are already going anyway), then people choose to ride with you for a fee.
    Because its mental the amount of wasted assets on our roads, the amount of single person per vehicle, traffic congestion and fuel costs.
    Its a logical market to break into. Drivers recoup some costs, passengers get a discount fair, the environment has a small win.

    The next to get hit will be the "Freight Transportation Sector", look out Man with a Van.... here comes Mum with a SUV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godzilla View Post
    There is a little more to it than meets the eye.

    Its currently not legal to do what they are offering, a bunch of Uber drivers recently got texts for jobs, attended them professionally and a short time later got a nice $7500 fine in the mail for driving a car for hire without the right plates, it was a sting to pull the drivers in and find out who some were.
    Yep, thats what I was alluding to earlier.

    There are major questions over legality and some governments have banned it outright. Given the high price of our taxi licensing system, I wouldnt be surprised if we follow.

    While you may be able to get away with a 10 year old car, consumers are fussy. From memory, you can request the same driver/vehicle ? If so, you could have the nicest guy in the world with his 10 year old car and someone thats polite enough with a brand new card with some luxuries.

    I know what I would pick

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    Yep, 2006 BMW 7 series over some guy in 2014 Subaru any day of the week!
    (Both would cost the same purchase price, the BMW may even be cheaper)

    Uber is banned in South Australia too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanboy View Post
    This explians the Uber process



    You'll find some info about Uber in Australia in the middle of this show


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    and some more here

    Too late found my solution.

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    I thought the Taxi industry in NSW was fairly tightly regulated as to the condition and cleanliness of the vehicle, all drivers are to wear a uniform that must be neat and tidy along with personal grooming or penalties can be imposed.
    I know in the recent past lots of complaints were made against the Taxi Industry (mainly Sydney CBD) in general forcing them to 'Clean up the act' so I cant see them not pressuring the Government to put the skids under this 'Uber' option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gordon_s1942 View Post
    I thought the Taxi industry in NSW was fairly tightly regulated as to the condition and cleanliness of the vehicle, all drivers are to wear a uniform that must be neat and tidy along with personal grooming or penalties can be imposed.
    Is it any different to Melbourne's ?

    Unroadworthy cars driven my migrants who dont speak english, who refuse fares they dont like, usually stink badly, are dangerous drivers and try to con on to any female passenger.

    Thats the majority, I didnt include the bad ones

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    I remember taking a few cabs in Sydney and boy were they 1000 times better than what i got in Melbourne, in fact after my last cab ride here i would rather take my chances and hitch a ride or use public transport.

    Melbourne cabs are the bottom of the pits, i can see how Uber would be a winner here with the public.

    I can also understand why cabs and the Govt is up in arms about it, cabs have some well deserved competition and the Govt is trying to protect a licensing system that they make a lot of money out of.

    With Uber, both dont make a cent......

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    The last few Taxis i caught in Melbourne, after chatting the driver, i find out its not even his cab, he is just driving for a friend.
    Does he even have a Taxi Licence? OR even a Drivers Licence? What the hell......
    All required us to direct them, certainly weren't born here, and didn't make for the most relaxing of journeys with erratic braking and lane changing.

    In saying that, i've also had a few real nice blokes too, that said "i'lll let you our here and you can run across the road, it will save you heaps in me getting over there".

    And i don't think you can solely blame Uber or another Share Ride Service for killing Taxis.
    Just speak to anyone thats owned a Taxi Licence in the past 5 years! They are not happy campers.
    Losing hundreds of thousands in the worth of their Licence's because of the Government and no one else.

    Ride Sharing is coming, whether the law makers want it or not.
    Its too big to ignore, its global, its logical and provides 1000's of jobs, using an asset you already own.

    Same as Air BnB, all these Asset Sharing concepts are taking off and the world is loving them.
    The world is moving on, people are smart, people shop for price and connivence.
    I'm 100% positive, it will be as common as Low Cost Airlines in 1 or 2 years time, likely not even that long.
    Company's like Uber probably relish in the bad press and media, as it only pushes their case to the fore, where some Law Makers will amend things to allow them to trade, purely due to public pressure to have these services available to them.
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    I remember around a decade ago at my old work, we had a Iraqi working there who had a cousin with a cab.

    He use to fill in on weekends working for extra cash, didnt have a cab license, didnt care, his Cousin told him its OK and to just make out he is his cousin, who would know......

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    i have seen the NSW Dept of Transport conduct the occaisonal raid on licenced Taxi drivers , i wonder if they can do the same for Uber drivers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VroomVroom View Post
    i have seen the NSW Dept of Transport conduct the occaisonal raid on licenced Taxi drivers , i wonder if they can do the same for Uber drivers?
    I wonder how you even spot them, as it just looks like someone is dropping a friend off.
    No money changes hands, its all done via your phone.

    Whats the difference between an Uber ride and Dropping your kids off at the pub, or picking them up?
    I guess when you don't hug them and tell them to be safe

    Plenty of these listing on Gumtree, 100's of them.
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    Easy, as explained in some articles on the web where some drivers copped a $7500 fine, whoever is catching them has the app and simply arranges a ride, notes the number plate when getting in or out, does not tell a word about it to the driver, vehicle owner simply gets a fine in the mail.

    Hang on, come to think about it, what if you did run Uber through a rental vehicle, being a rental, its a car for hire?

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    The car-service UBER is nothing else than a pyramid scheme, means it is an unsustainable business model that involves promising participants payment or services, primarily for enrolling other people into the scheme, rather than supplying any real investment or sale of products or services to the public.

    Actually due to the fact UBER is a form of pyramid schemes, UBER is considered to be illegal in many countries including the United States, Brazil and numerous European countries. In India, a ban is currently being considered.

    The time will come when UBER, the car service that is not a car service, collapses.
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